Date: Sun, 22 Jun 97 09:35:09 PDT From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1997 #14 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Sun, 22 Jun 97 Volume 1997: Issue 14 Today's Topics: /dev/nul: No such file or directory 1.12s 512 byte per line limit Expire Errors ftp.kew.com upgraded official 1.2t re-using mail from the out-mail box UUPC, OS2POPS, and fun fun fun (4 msgs) UUPC/extended On-line User Guide (5 msgs) UUPC Configuration Problems. VMS server error To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 15:37:20 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: /dev/nul: No such file or directory To: "Hermann Busch" On 14 Jun 1997 18:17:00 +0200, "Hermann Busch" wrote: > :-) Similar to my problem. And I think, it would be nice (not only > for me !), if 1.12t (Windows 32 bit mode) would be able to be combined > with Mercury32/WinPMail. I have no information (at my fingers on this, so I have no information on what the differents are). The biggest change I've promised to put is in a forwarding hack for one message per file. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux'". --Bruce Perens, Debian's Fearless Leader ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:21:31 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: 1.12s To: hajo@Zierke.com On Mon, 16 Jun 97 23:03:52 +0200, "Hans-Joachim Zierke" wrote: > I also found the reason for some of the awful login problems. > > 1. Remote sends login string. > > 2) UUPC sends login. > > 3) At the same time, remote sends login string again, instead of echoing > the login. > > UUPC will never recover from this condition. It won't detect that the login > wasn't echoed, but wait for password string. My computer in Berlin has this > problem. Sounds like you need to put delays (\d\d\d) before sending the user id. You _can_ detect the echo of your login user id: \d\d\d\EUserid\e \E turns on echo checking, \e turns it off. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "I can't believe this. I've got a trig midterm tomorrow and I'm being chased by Guido, the killer pimp." - Risky Business ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 16:53:43 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: 512 byte per line limit To: "Ariel Dembling" On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:58:22 -0300, "Ariel Dembling" wrote: > This is an old discussion... > > > > > The attached mail file is utterly, completely unreadable by the > > > > UUPC/extended mailer. I cannot help you. > > [...] > > Being flexible, I also fed it to my personal alternative account, which > > I use Netscape 3.01's mail browser to read. It's never heard of your > > format. > > I still haven't tested it, but it's certainly a bug of Navigator's if > that's the case. Both Unix PINE and Pegasus for Windows 95 read it > just fine. > > > I can't decode the message from MIME. I want to fix the error, but I > > cant. I would suggest you check and see if any lines are longer than > > 512 characters. > > I didn't keep the original message, and that's why I took so long to > answer. Now I've received another offending message. It's been > written with Netscape's (again) Communicator. As you might know, > Communicator sends two copies of the same message by default. One > in plain text, and another in HTML. Since mails can use a large > amount of consecutive spaces (I think that's what " " means), > you end up with a loooong line like this one (it's split so as not to > break your system): I've been seeing some SPAM which takes out the system, I'll check the various code to see if I'm getting an overlength buffer. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux'". --Bruce Perens, Debian's Fearless Leader ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:55:22 -0400 From: MarchHare@momeraths.org (Sysop) Subject: Expire Errors To: uupc-info@kew.com Well, I've been busy tracking down another problem, or I would have reported this earlier. Since no one else has mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one with this problem. Expire seems to have general difficulties in 1.12s. It keeps crashing for reasons I cannot determine. However, it seems to be intermittent, and running genhist seems to clear it up. I echo everything to a log file, which shows: expire: Purging news older than 06/13-06:49 (7 days) Total of 14058 articles, 3127 cross postings (264255748 bytes). General Protection Fault exception occurred at EIP = 1E28A2E4 on thread 0001. Exception occurred in C Library routine called from EIP = 1E2602AF. Register Dump at point of exception: EAX = 150C5DB4 EBX = 00000000 ECX = 00000001 EDX = 001C0500 EBP = 000826BC EDI = 00000033 ESI = 002A4400 ESP = 00082688  CS = 005B CSLIM = 1FFFFFFF DS = 0053 DSLIM = 1FFFFFFF  ES = 0053 ESLIM = 1FFFFFFF FS = 150B FSLIM = 00000030  GS = 0000 GSLIM = 00000000 SS = 0053 SSLIM = 1FFFFFFF Process terminating. The POPUPLOG.OS2 shows: ------------------------------------------------------------ 06-20-1997 02:27:27 SYS3170 PID 00ff TID 0001 Slot 00aa G:\UUCP\OS2BIN\EXPIRE.EXE c0010001 1bfabf71 EAX=150a5db4 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000001 EDX=001c0500 ESI=002a4400 EDI=00000033 DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** CS:EIP=005b:1e28a2e4 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff SS:ESP=0053:00082688 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff EBP=000826bc FLG=00012206 DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000bf71 ------------------------------------------------------------ 06-20-1997 06:53:55 SYS3170 PID 011d TID 0001 Slot 00ab G:\UUCP\OS2BIN\EXPIRE.EXE c0010001 1bfabf71 EAX=150c5db4 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000001 EDX=001c0500 ESI=002a4400 EDI=00000033 DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** CS:EIP=005b:1e28a2e4 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff SS:ESP=0053:00082688 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff EBP=000826bc FLG=00012206 DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000bf71 Any ideas? John -- //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // momerath@apk.net sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT` // MarchHare@momeraths.org ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD // ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA // .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA // In case of stupidity, break glass. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:33:49 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: ftp.kew.com upgraded To: "UUPC Mailing List" Both ftp.kew.com and www.kew.com have been moved to a newer 486/66 based system which is connected to the Internet via a Cable Modem; this means downloads will be up to 20 times faster than the previous setup, which had our 386/33 system connected to a 28.8 modem link. It may take a while for the name change to be repeated across all servers (you can tell you got the new server if the system is an alias of kendra.net.kew.com), but it should known to all systems by Monday morning. Please report any problems to me at software@kew.com. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "Like a bat out of hell I'll be gone when the morning comes But when the day is done And the sun goes down And the moonlight's shining through Then like a sinner before the gates of heaven I'll come crawling on back to you . . ." - Jim Steinman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:17:30 +0000 From: "TPCG" Subject: official 1.2t To: Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support Hi If the official 1.2t of uupc Out ? i have been using 1.2s and its rmail seem to give some problem on some !! addresses. So i use rmail in this case of 1.2r but it doesnt have smtp Any clues ? Rehan :) Have a Nice Day !!! TPCG Http://www.tpcg.com/ A Free Email to Fax!!! email faxinfo@tpcg.com Coming Soon: Internet consultation Over the NET! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:44:57 +0000 From: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org (Chris Winemiller) Subject: re-using mail from the out-mail box To: "ks dilip" "ks dilip" writes: > A copy of each message sent is stored in >a single file called mailsent.Is there any command >to read/edit mail from mailsent ? There are 3rd-party mail/news readers for UUPC/Extended that can be configured to save all the user's sent mail in mail folder(s) within the user's personal directory somewhere. Such mail folders are easily accessed so that old mail can be forwarded, bounced, etc. I am the author of such a reader. (I believe there are others as well.) If you're interested, please feel free to email me and I'll tell you where you can pick it up. Regards, Chris -- Chris Winemiller Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hey Rocky! Watch me pull some intelligence out of the Internet!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:47:44 +0000 From: Eric Veldhuyzen Subject: UUPC, OS2POPS, and fun fun fun To: klund@mediaone.net Kent Lundberg writes: > Okay, okay. People seem really interested in the setup I have, so I > am forwarding a description of what I have running so far, so others > can try to duplicate it... [...] I also just created a setup that works for me, and it works without perl hacks. Even though I like Perl very much (I wrote quite a bit of Perl code), it is not the best thing if you have to use it to fix bugs in other programs, I think. Anyway, to make the mail available to users on my tiny network, I've setup a little POP3 server, it's called POP3D, available via ftp://ftp.vdonsk.ru/os2/tcpip/pop3/pop3d09a.exe. It is possible that there is a newer version since I just reported a tiny bug about codepages (nothing really to worry about). It works perfectly with UUPC/Extended, it can even accept mail from the user if this mail program supports sending mail via a POP3 server (PMMail for example). The sending via POP3 is some obscure POP3 extention that isn't documented anywere I could find it (Not in an RFC). So I also want to be able to have a SMTP daemon on my machine that directs all sent mail via rmail. to make that working I picked up IBM sendmail 2.01 and started editing the sendmail.cf. And I got a version that works. It might not be perfect, but at least it is something I can work with. If there is interest, I could mail it or send it to the list, depending on how many users are interested. It is not very big, about 2kb. -- Eric Veldhuyzen eric@terra.xs4all.nl TEAM OS/2 Moderator of Comp.os.os2.moderated PGP-KeyID: 0xFB64FCB3 ********** FIGHT to keep your right to PRIVACY. Use PGP! ********** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 13:03:19 -0400 From: MarchHare@momeraths.org Subject: UUPC, OS2POPS, and fun fun fun To: Software@kew.com On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:52:42 -0500, "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:17:31 -0400, "Kent Lundberg" wrote: >> But that's not what I want to do. My email doesn't come from sendmail, >> it comes from UUPC. So I want to define POPSMAIL as the mail delivery >> agent for UUPC. Simple. Define a line in the global ALIASES files that >> says: >> >> kent: |popsmail e:\os2pops kent nobody > >The 1.12s release allows the local node to be redirected into a program >in the hostpath for more global processing. i think. Bug reports >accepted. This means you only need one line for the whole system. So, if I understand you, all I would have to do is place this line into hostpath: mome = |CvrtMail.Cmd in order to have UUPC pipe external mail for node mome into a REXX program called CvrtMail.Cmd? If so, the only drawback I can see is getting the username of the recipient out of it. Will outgoing mail still go to RMAIL.EXE and into the spool to be transmitted back through the remote UUCP system? >> You see, POPSMAIL expects to see a Control-Z (DOS EOF marker) to >> indicate the end of the file. Sendmail provides this. UUPC does not. >> So POPSMAIL never sees an ^Z, so it keeps reading empty lines from the >> pipe, and it keeps writing empty lines (with an added CR-LF) to my >> mailbox, until the harddisk fills up. Yep, it did this. > > ... >"Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't > want Linux'". --Bruce Perens, Debian's Fearless Leader I like that quote. John -- //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // momerath@apk.net sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT` // MarchHare@momeraths.org ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD // ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA // .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA // In case of stupidity, break glass. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:19:18 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: UUPC, OS2POPS, and fun fun fun To: "Udo van den Heuvel" On 16 Jun 97 19:01:24 +0100, "Udo van den Heuvel" wrote: > *** Dit is een antwoord op een bericht in RECEIVED_NETMAIL (Received Netmail). > Cewl! I can pipe the email for my site into the pop3 server and receive the > answer-emails (ahem) via smtp into the uupc queue. Cewl! > > DDUES> We will not be supporting POP3 soon. > > No problem. Mabi (or something) would be better. I think you mean MAPI. We may support it, it depends on how cheap it is; it will not be in 1.12t, however. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "I can't believe this. I've got a trig midterm tomorrow and I'm being chased by Guido, the killer pimp." - Risky Business ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:26:29 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: UUPC, OS2POPS, and fun fun fun To: MarchHare@momeraths.org On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 13:03:19 -0400, MarchHare@momeraths.org wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:52:42 -0500, "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" wrote: > >On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:17:31 -0400, "Kent Lundberg" wrote: > >> But that's not what I want to do. My email doesn't come from sendmail, > >> it comes from UUPC. So I want to define POPSMAIL as the mail delivery > >> agent for UUPC. Simple. Define a line in the global ALIASES files that > >> says: > >> > >> kent: |popsmail e:\os2pops kent nobody > > > >The 1.12s release allows the local node to be redirected into a program > >in the hostpath for more global processing. i think. Bug reports > >accepted. This means you only need one line for the whole system. > > So, if I understand you, all I would have to do is place this line into > hostpath: > > mome = |CvrtMail.Cmd No, there is no equal sign (=) > in order to have UUPC pipe external mail for node mome into a REXX > program called CvrtMail.Cmd? If so, the only drawback I can see is > getting the username of the recipient out of it. Several parameters are passed to it, including the user name; the rexx syntax should be: parse arg gateway node user fromnode fromuser > Will outgoing mail > still go to RMAIL.EXE and into the spool to be transmitted back through > the remote UUCP system? No. One place at a time. :-) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "I can't believe this. I've got a trig midterm tomorrow and I'm being chased by Guido, the killer pimp." - Risky Business ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 13:33:02 -0400 From: MarchHare@momeraths.org (Sysop) Subject: UUPC/extended On-line User Guide To: Software@kew.com On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:10:50 -0500, "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" wrote: >On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:02:27 +0200, "Postmaster" wrote: >> How about including with UUPC/extended, a "Online" user guide? >> >> If you want, I'll gladly help with the creation of it for novice users. > >Unfortunately, it's at the top of our list. At some point we're >interested in converting the manual to HTML, which would allow on-line >browsing by (if nothing else) LYNX. Should I applaud you now or later? Seeing as I was one of the more critical ones when you decided to use MS Word format, I see it as only fair to express my appreciation for such a move. John -- //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // momerath@apk.net sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT` // MarchHare@momeraths.org ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD // ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA // .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA // In case of stupidity, break glass. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:23:54 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: UUPC/extended On-line User Guide To: "Sysop" On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 13:33:02 -0400, "Sysop" wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:10:50 -0500, "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" wrote: > >At some point we're > >interested in converting the manual to HTML, which would allow on-line > >browsing by (if nothing else) LYNX. > > Should I applaud you now or later? Seeing as I was one of the more > critical ones when you decided to use MS Word format, I see it as only > fair to express my appreciation for such a move. Later -- the item is NOT at the top of our list, and the year may have '20' in it before we get to it. In the mean time, the word viewer is free, with a copy on our server. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "I can't believe this. I've got a trig midterm tomorrow and I'm being chased by Guido, the killer pimp." - Risky Business ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 06:28:39 +0000 From: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org (Chris Winemiller) Subject: UUPC/extended On-line User Guide To: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" , "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" writes: >On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 13:33:02 -0400, "Sysop" wrote: >> Should I applaud you now or later? Seeing as I was one of the more >> critical ones when you decided to use MS Word format, I see it as only >> fair to express my appreciation for such a move. > >Later -- the item is NOT at the top of our list, and the year may have >'20' in it before we get to it. In the mean time, the word viewer is >free, with a copy on our server. For what it's worth, I think the Word format is just fine, especially since the viewer is free. HTML will be OK, too, once it's available. Regards, Chris -- Chris Winemiller Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hey Rocky! Watch me pull some intelligence out of the Internet!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:49:12 -0600 From: "Walter Medak" Subject: UUPC/extended On-line User Guide To: "Chris Winemiller" On Fri, 20 Jun 1997 06:28:39 +0000, "Chris Winemiller" wrote: > >Later -- the item is NOT at the top of our list, and the year may have > >'20' in it before we get to it. In the mean time, the word viewer is > >free, with a copy on our server. > > For what it's worth, I think the Word format is just fine, especially > since the viewer is free. HTML will be OK, too, once it's available. I beg to differ since, for some of us, the Word viewer would be used solely to view the UUPC docs. In *my* case, I have no need to view Word format docs on a regular basis. I'd much rather have it HTML format, if those are the choices. That's my 2 bits worth. -- I'm always doing what I can't do yet in order to learn how to do it. - Vincent van Gogh Email: ghoti@lao-tse.lcrnet.org WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:51:42 +0000 From: Eric Veldhuyzen Subject: UUPC/extended On-line User Guide To: Chris Winemiller Chris Winemiller writes: > "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" writes: >> On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 13:33:02 -0400, "Sysop" >> wrote: >>> Should I applaud you now or later? Seeing as I was one of the >>> more critical ones when you decided to use MS Word format, I see >>> it as only fair to express my appreciation for such a move. >> Later -- the item is NOT at the top of our list, and the year may >> have '20' in it before we get to it. In the mean time, the word >> viewer is free, with a copy on our server. > For what it's worth, I think the Word format is just fine, > especially since the viewer is free. HTML will be OK, too, once > it's available. I don't think so. Word is completely useless to me. I can't read it. I don't use windows and I don't want to install windows just te be able to view the UUPC manuals. Plain Ascii is good, HTML is fine too but I simply can't do anything with this Word format. -- Eric Veldhuyzen eric@terra.xs4all.nl TEAM OS/2 Moderator of Comp.os.os2.moderated PGP-KeyID: 0xFB64FCB3 ********** FIGHT to keep your right to PRIVACY. Use PGP! ********** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:10:01 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: UUPC Configuration Problems. To: gpallas@seciu.edu.uy On Wed, 28 May 1997 14:55:21 -0300, "Gustavo Pallas" wrote: > Please, we're trying to configure the UUPC/extended 1.12r to transfer > files between a Win95 machine and a Unix one trough a DIRect connection > (without a modem). > We're having the next error, but, however we get the connection. What > this error is ? , how can we solve it ? > > (2) NT API error 53 in uucico\suspendn.c at line 379 ... > (0) \\.\PIPE\UUCICO\ZZCOM1: No se ha encontrado la ruta de acceso de > la red. All together now: this means you are not running another UUCICO on the port. Ignore it. > After get connected, we have problems with the permissions to read the > file to transfer from the Win95 machine to the Unix one. What is the > problem ? What kind of permissions it refers ? > > (3) newrequest: got command from c:/spool/rosita/C/)np2)( > (4) process: Machine state is = f > (5) ValidateFile: Checking READ access for file > "C:/public/archivo2" > (0) ValidateFile: access rejected, REQUEST not enabled in permissions > file The error message is pretty clear to me, did define the machine in the PERMISSN file and specify REQUEST=YES? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux'". --Bruce Perens, Debian's Fearless Leader ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:10:22 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/Extended Support" Subject: VMS server error To: "UUPC Mailing List" The VMS server had a problem running UUENCODE to send binary files. This has been corrected, and the VMS server is once again able to do so. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "and i been riding on a ghost train where the cars they scream and slam and i don't know where i'll be tonight but i'd always tell you where i am . . ." - Mark Knopfler ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************