Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 18:06:07 PST From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1997 #5 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Tue, 11 Feb 97 Volume 1997: Issue 5 Today's Topics: Extracting info from LOG files I see the bug Pegasus and UUPC (3 msgs) TAPI uucico? (6 msgs) Tapi UUCICO FTP (3 msgs) UUPC over TCP/IP slow? (2 msgs) To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:16:16 +0200 From: yorke@rodda.pta.school.za Subject: Extracting info from LOG files To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Greetings This is my first message to this list. I am a teacher, researcher, a teacher trainer, project manager in the area of getting computers to be used in schools - mainly in the townhips and rural areas in and around Pretoria, South Africa. I am jack of a few trades relating to computers in education but master of none. I am not very technical and the closest I have ever got to with regard to Unix is when the programme uses your UUPC or is it UUCP stuff .. About 3 years ago I stared PretNet (Pretoria Education Network) - but I know almost nothing about how the mail works from a technical point of view. I am very grateful to those who make the mail work and solve problems .. and develop the software!!! Thanks I am keen to get a program to extract relevant infomation from the UUCICO.LOG files and would like to put my request for a utility on a list. We use THURN (an update of SNUUPM) and UUPLAN developed by Stephen Marquard . I need to look at the LOGs for a research project I am doing for the IDRC where we are looking at the use of a GSM (i.e. cell) modem for e-mail in two rural schools. Any help will be appreciated Many thanks Yorke Yorke Rodda (Mr) C.A.R.E.S. = Computer And Related Education Services yorke@rodda.pta.school.za yorke@mtc.pta.school.za http://www.pta.school.za/ P.O. Box 905-163 Garsfontein, 0042 Telephone: +27 12 47-6588 (o & fax) South Africa +27 12 348-7696 (h) '''''''''``````````````~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````````````````'''''''' ------------------------------ Date: 11 Feb 1997 20:09:00 +0100 From: uupc-info@quijote.in-berlin.de Subject: I see the bug To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Drew, Du schriebst am 17.01.97: > Why did you use that? UUCICO has a -t option to trace what it reads. This gives the same result. > > After that, UUPC does - nothing. It waits for timeout. Unluckily, the > > Shere will not be sent a second time to start the UUCP protocol. > > Does UUCICO see the Shere (use -t). Yes. To me, it looks like a timing problem. Sometimes, it goes completely away, sometimes, it is always there. I have tried both IBM and SIO comm driver, have tried to reduce DTE speed to 38400, have increased the uucico priority to the highest setting, without success. At the moment, it mostly works, but I still can't run it unattended, Also, the "upload big files" problem is back: While I can receive any file size, I can't send big files (more than 100 k). hajo -- ====[Hans-Joachim Zierke]============================================== [ Hauptstr. 21 ] Zierke@Zierke.COM [ D-32609 H|llhorst ] ====[ 05744 / 3536 ]============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:13:34 -0500 From: billjr@penny.com Subject: Pegasus and UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list From: plate@infotek.dk (John Plate) Hello I want to know about integrating uupc and Pegasus Mail. Does anyone has experience with that? Check out UUPLAN it connects uupc and Pegasus. The doc's also provide other solutions. http://www.wcape.school.za/software/uuplan.html Also Mike Lawries SNUUPM (don't know the URL for that one ... try a search engine). -- Bill McEachran billjr@penny.com Penny Fuels Inc. Tel: (905) 686-5200 ext. 24 339 Westney Road South #202 Fax: (905) 686-5205 Ajax ON L1S-7J6 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Feb 97 07:05:39 From: victor@ksc15.th.com Subject: Pegasus and UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Hello > I want to know about integrating uupc and Pegasus Mail. > Does anyone has experience with that? Try SNUUPM you can get it from www.shareware.com it will tell you everything about it. I use pegasus and uupc since about 1.5 years here in our office and it works just fine. Cheers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:43:03 GMT-10 From: peter@jehoshua.DIALix.oz.au Subject: Pegasus and UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, Recently John wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:16:15 +0100 (MET) > From: plate@infotek.dk > Subject: Pegasus and UUPC > To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > Hello > I want to know about integrating uupc and Pegasus Mail. > Does anyone has experience with that? > -- > John Plate This one was from Thomas and probably answers your question John. :) > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:41:27 +0000 > From: THOMAS@aac.nl > Subject: Filename conversion > To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > ------------------- User Gateway Definition -------------- > > Gateway name : [UUCP_AAC ] > *New mail path : \pmail\~8.spb > Is  a program to run? : N > *New mail search mask : *.cnm > *Outgoing mail path : \uucp\out > *Run for outgoing mail : sendmail.bat ~c > *Filename format : ~d~d.CNM > Run to validate address : > *Reply address format : ~8@aac.nl > Accepts SMTP addresses? : Y > Simple message headers? : No formatting > UUEncode attachments? : Y > Burst messages? : N Gateway processes BCC? : N > Strip gateway name? : Y > Force all mail through? : N > > > SENDMAIL.BAT > ------------ > @echo off > ctty nul > SET UUPCSYSRC=3D\UUCP\UUPC.RC > SET UUPCUSRRC=3DTHOMAS.RC > SET TZ=3DCET > \UUCP\BIN\rmail -t -f %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 > nul > \UUCP\BIN\rmail -F %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 -w archive@aac.nl > nul > SET UUPCSYSRC=3D > SET UUPCUSRRC=3D > SET TZ=3D > ctty con =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D SENDMAIL.BAT is in the same directory as your Pegasus software, and run PCONFIG to add the User Gateway Definition above. If it is standalone, you need: +----------------- Standalone Configuration ------------------+ | | | Home mailbox : [c:\usr\~8\mbox ] | | New mailbox : c:\usr\~8\mail | | Asynch gateway? : N | | | | | | Where your mail folders, address books, distribution | | lists and other associated mail files should be stored. | | | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ This runs okay under Pmail for DOS & WIN. Under WIN you need the command line to read \PMAIL\PMAIL.EXE -A -i username. Under WIN95 you just need the above as Thomas has described, but under WIN 3.x you need a .PIF file to run SENDMAIL.BAT. (But I prefer Pmail for DOS, it's a lot quicker). Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------- ( (|) ) | Peter & Kathy Richards | | Jehoshua Computing /^\ | 79 Bee Farm Rd Phone: (047) 517220 Christ to | Springwood NSW 2777 Fax: (047) 517220 the World | Australia By Radio | Email: Peter@jehoshua.dialix.oz.au FEBC | WWW : http://www.febc.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:36:49 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: TAPI uucico? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 5 Feb 97 at 19:01, Traci@ami.spacecoast.org wrote: > > Is there any chance that someone has compiled a version of uucico to > > use win95's TAPI (telephony API) so that it will share the modem port > > with other win95 applications? > > Here's an update: > > Dave Watt (N1HMB) mentioned that someone has > already done a version of uucico.exe which dials via TAPI, but I don't > know who or where this code can be found. I'm about to repeat the > effort unless I hear otherwise. (The source compiles nicely under > MS VC++ 4.0. Thanks, Dave). ... > I have still not located an adequate cron program. It was suggested > that I can accomplish what I want to do with uupoll, but I think the > conditional stuff (once per hour, _plus_ every quarter hour if there's > work to send) would require another program "touching" a file in the > spool directory hourly. This, again, would need a cron. MS System > Agent may fill the bill, but wasn't included in the software bundled > with my system, so I don't have it (yet?). I'd like some feedback on > what others are doing. I stripped vixie cron (as included in the FreeBSD sources) to run under MS-DOS. Executable and source at ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/misc/dcron10.zip (something like that). > I am concerned by the low volume of traffic on this list and the rather > old modification dates on the source files that uupc may be a dormant > product. Have people shifted to other, newer uucp transport packages? > Apparently a lot of you are running OS2. Are there other win32 users > out there? I am particularly interested in UUPC on Win32 (95 and NT). It would also be useful to have UUPC work with non-standard modems (eg. PCMCIA cards, different IRQs, etc.). Presumably TAPI would provide this? FWIW we use UUPC/extended in a non-profit educational network with over 270 sites (Win95, Win 3.1, Netware/LANtastic LANs, etc.) Regards Stephen --- Stephen Marquard Western Cape Schools' Network http://www.wcape.school.za scm@silver.wcape.school.za / (021) 531-9361 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 10:21:21 -0500 From: mwills@ge-harris.com Subject: TAPI uucico? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list scm@silver.wcape.school.za wrote: > > On 5 Feb 97 at 19:01, Traci@ami.spacecoast.org wrote: > > > > Is there any chance that someone has compiled a version of uucico to > > > use win95's TAPI (telephony API) so that it will share the modem port > > > with other win95 applications? > I stripped vixie cron (as included in the FreeBSD sources) to run > under MS-DOS. Executable and source at > ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/misc/dcron10.zip (something like > that). Thanks, I'll get it. > I am particularly interested in UUPC on Win32 (95 and NT). It would > also be useful to have UUPC work with non-standard modems (eg. > PCMCIA cards, different IRQs, etc.). Presumably TAPI would provide > this? Yes, it would. It seems to me that the slickest approach would be to include another "Suite" option (internal, TCP/IP, FOCIL, and now TAPI) which would invoke the TAPI drivers rather than having to create a specific *.mdm file for your modem. I'm really only after the device sharing properties of TAPI, but the device independence features would come for free. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that all that's needed are TAPI alternatives for each of the public functions in uucico/ulibnt.c. The non-blocking requirement should be satisfied by a separate thread which will write the data to the line. Where, oh where, is the previous port? > FWIW we use UUPC/extended in a non-profit educational network with > over 270 sites (Win95, Win 3.1, Netware/LANtastic LANs, etc.) Glad to hear it. Scott // Don't be confused by my various addresses, it's still me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Feb 97 22:46:27 -0700 From: drew@cgo.dec.com Subject: TAPI uucico? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list >Is there any chance that someone has compiled a version of uucico to >use win95's TAPI (telephony API) so that it will share the modem port >with other win95 applications? Yes I turned uucico into a windows app (with scrolling window rather than dos app under 95/NT) and added full TAPI support. I have WinFax running on my machine and can receive fax'es and uucico calls without any troubles. Also if I need to use dialup networking I don't have to exit uucico. I sent all the code and executables/comments to Drew about a year ago so It could be included in the distribution. I have not kept in touch to see the current status as I am happy with my setup. I could email the stuff if you want it. regards, Steve Drew. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 13:18:25 -0500 From: Traci@ami.spacecoast.org Subject: TAPI uucico? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list drew@cgo.dec.com wrote: > Yes I turned uucico into a windows app (with scrolling window rather > than dos app under 95/NT) and added full TAPI support. I have WinFax > running on my machine and can receive fax'es and uucico calls without > any troubles. > I could email the stuff if you want it. Yes, please. I'm anxious to try it. (sorry for the list reply... not sure if Steve has a separate address at home). Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:00:43 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: TAPI uucico? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 7 Feb 97 at 22:46, drew@cgo.dec.com wrote: > >Is there any chance that someone has compiled a version of uucico to > >use win95's TAPI (telephony API) so that it will share the modem port > >with other win95 applications? > > Yes I turned uucico into a windows app (with scrolling window rather > than dos app under 95/NT) and added full TAPI support. I have WinFax > running on my machine and can receive fax'es and uucico calls without > any troubles. > > Also if I need to use dialup networking I don't have to exit uucico. > > I sent all the code and executables/comments to Drew about a year ago > so It could be included in the distribution. I have not kept in touch > to see the current status as I am happy with my setup. > > I could email the stuff if you want it. Yes please, could I have a copy too? Thanks Stephen --- Stephen Marquard Western Cape Schools' Network http://www.wcape.school.za scm@silver.wcape.school.za / (021) 531-9361 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:48:40 -0600 From: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org Subject: TAPI uucico? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list scm@silver.wcape.school.za writes: >On 7 Feb 97 at 22:46, drew@cgo.dec.com wrote: > >> >Is there any chance that someone has compiled a version of uucico to >> >use win95's TAPI (telephony API) so that it will share the modem port >> >with other win95 applications? >> >> Yes I turned uucico into a windows app (with scrolling window rather >> than dos app under 95/NT) and added full TAPI support. I have WinFax >> running on my machine and can receive fax'es and uucico calls without >> any troubles. >> >> Also if I need to use dialup networking I don't have to exit uucico. >> >> I sent all the code and executables/comments to Drew about a year ago >> so It could be included in the distribution. I have not kept in touch >> to see the current status as I am happy with my setup. >> >> I could email the stuff if you want it. > >Yes please, could I have a copy too? I, too, am interested. Perhaps you could make it available at an FTP site for all who are interested? Regards, Chris -- Chris Winemiller Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org UUCP : ..!uunet!iphase!dinosaur!keys!cwinemil ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hey Rocky! Watch me pull some intelligence out of the Internet!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 10:00:10 -0700 From: drew@cgo.dec.com Subject: Tapi UUCICO FTP To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I currently do not have access to put this anywhere ftp'able. Is there someone I could sent it to, that could do this, or any other sugguestions? Thanks, Steve. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 13:47:58 +0000 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: Tapi UUCICO FTP To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > > I currently do not have access to put this anywhere ftp'able. Is there > someone I could sent it to, that could do this, or any other sugguestions? Sure, send it to me uuencoded, or e-mail me for site and username/password for uploading. > > Thanks, > Steve. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mustafa Soysal MS57 uupc@mistik.express.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:07:20 +0100 From: jacques.rebiscoul@ssti.mipnet.fr Subject: Tapi UUCICO FTP To: UUPC/Extended mailing list drew@cgo.dec.com wrote: > > I currently do not have access to put this anywhere ftp'able. Is there > someone I could sent it to, that could do this, or any other sugguestions? > > Thanks, > Steve. If you send it to me, it will be put in : ftp://ftp.mipnet.fr/pub/tapi Regards -- Jacques REBISCOUL S. S. T. I. Tel:(33) 05 61 43 65 65 Fax:(33) 05 61 40 52 02 mailto:Jacques.Rebiscoul@ssti.mipnet.fr 31,Av. Champollion 31100 TOULOUSE FRANCE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 06:27:56 +0700 From: hidajat@tambora.parokinet.org Subject: UUPC over TCP/IP slow? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello everyone, I've been using UUPC/ext 1.12r for almost 1 year and I am pretty happy with it. Just a few days ago I got an internet account from a local ISP, and now I'm experimenting running UUPC over a TCP/IP link. I found that the transfer rate is much slower than the 'regular' dial-up (100 bytes/sec vs 2000 bytes/sec). Is it common that slow, or I have to finely tune some configuration files? How to make UUCICO automatically invoke the PPP dial-up connection? FYI, I use UUPC/ext 1.12r 32 bit version on Windows95, TCPIP.mdm version 1.12f (supplied in the UUPC package), 14.4 kbps modem and 57.600 bps connection to the local provider. TIA -- Dr. Rachmat Hidajat, MSc. Department of Microbiology Faculty of Medicine Airlangga University Surabaya, INDONESIA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 03:32:25 -0500 From: Traci@ami.spacecoast.org Subject: UUPC over TCP/IP slow? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list hidajat@tambora.parokinet.org wrote: > > Hello everyone, > I've been using UUPC/ext 1.12r for almost 1 year and I am pretty happy > with it. Just a few days ago I got an internet account from a local ISP, > and now I'm experimenting running UUPC over a TCP/IP link. I found > that the transfer rate is much slower than the 'regular' dial-up > (100 bytes/sec vs 2000 bytes/sec). Is it common that slow, or I have > to finely tune some configuration files? How to make UUCICO automatically > invoke the PPP dial-up connection? > FYI, I use UUPC/ext 1.12r 32 bit version on Windows95, TCPIP.mdm version > 1.12f (supplied in the UUPC package), 14.4 kbps modem and 57.600 bps Are you specifying "u" and "t" protocols as options for the TCP connection? Using v, g, or G over TCP would be slower, but I'm not sure how much. Of course, even if you specify u & t, if the other end doesn't support them, you'll probably fall back to G or g anyway. I have two enties in my systems file: one for the direct dialed connection which specifies "vG" as the desired protocols, and another one for the same system via TCP which specifies "utvG". If it fails the first one, it goes on to the next. Scott ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************