Date: Sat, 18 Jan 97 00:46:04 PST From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1997 #2 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Sat, 18 Jan 97 Volume 1997: Issue 2 Today's Topics: Help using UUPC across a PPP connection (4 msgs) How to send Disable call waiting? (4 msgs) Interface to Netscape mail or MS Outlook mail clients (2 msgs) I see the bug (2 msgs) Lines starting with ~ (2 msgs) MR/2 ICE Mail client now supports UUPC (OS/2) New problem w/ UUPC & PPP connection (3 msgs) Weird problem with UUPC 1.12r and 1.12p (4 msgs) To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:58:20 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Help using UUPC across a PPP connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 24 Dec 96 16:56:11 -0500, os2guy@crusader.jcdisciples.org wrote: > I am about to setup a direct connect w/ my provider using my modem > and PPP (specifically the InJoy program). I changed my systems file > to use the following line (I removed the login and password for > security reasons 8-): > > ozzy Any tcp 33600 terrestrial.com etvg "" "" gin:--gin:--gin:-------gin: ???? ssword:---------ssword:----word: ???? No, no way you want that many dashes in your login script. What gives? > > 12/24-15:00 uucico: UUPC/extended 1.12k (Dec 8 1994 22:58:15) > 12/24-15:00 chooseCommunications: Invalid suite name tcp/ip > > Any clues? > > An ambassador for Christ > David Tannen (os2guy@crusader.jcdisciples.org) Assuming OS/2 by your .sig file, make sure you are using the original UUCICO and not the UUCICON; the latter does not include TCP/IP support. Also, it's NOT supported under DOS. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:58:20 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Help using UUPC across a PPP connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 24 Dec 96 16:56:11 -0500, os2guy@crusader.jcdisciples.org wrote: > I am about to setup a direct connect w/ my provider using my modem > and PPP (specifically the InJoy program). I changed my systems file > to use the following line (I removed the login and password for > security reasons 8-): > > ozzy Any tcp 33600 terrestrial.com etvg "" "" gin:--gin:--gin:-------gin: ???? ssword:---------ssword:----word: ???? No, no way you want that many dashes in your login script. What gives? > > 12/24-15:00 uucico: UUPC/extended 1.12k (Dec 8 1994 22:58:15) > 12/24-15:00 chooseCommunications: Invalid suite name tcp/ip > > Any clues? > > An ambassador for Christ > David Tannen (os2guy@crusader.jcdisciples.org) Assuming OS/2 by your .sig file, make sure you are using the original UUCICO and not the UUCICON; the latter does not include TCP/IP support. Also, it's NOT supported under DOS. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:59:42 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Help using UUPC across a PPP connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 26 Dec 1996 08:16:04 -0500 (EST), conrad@ntcnet.com wrote: > I believe you need a newer version of uupc for the tcp/ip stuff to work. > I'm not sure which version is necessary, but mine works with 1.12p. The original poster has 1.12k (look at the headers), which is new enough for 'e' protocol. It is not good enough for 't' protocol, but he's failing long before then. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:59:42 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Help using UUPC across a PPP connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 26 Dec 1996 08:16:04 -0500 (EST), conrad@ntcnet.com wrote: > I believe you need a newer version of uupc for the tcp/ip stuff to work. > I'm not sure which version is necessary, but mine works with 1.12p. The original poster has 1.12k (look at the headers), which is new enough for 'e' protocol. It is not good enough for 't' protocol, but he's failing long before then. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 21:59:19 +1000 From: miket@pcug.org.au Subject: How to send Disable call waiting? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Does anyone know how to configure the modem file to send the code to disable / enable call waiting? In Australia it is #43# to disable it and *43# to enable it. I experimented with putting ATDT#43# but this didn't seem to work. Regards, Mike -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Taylor miket@pcug.org.au ----------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.pcug.org.au/~miket/ Michael Taylor +61 6 2575400 ----------------------------------------------------------------- (INSERT CLEVER TAG HERE) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 10:39:53 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: How to send Disable call waiting? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Does anyone know how to configure the modem file to send > the code to disable / enable call waiting? > > In Australia it is #43# to disable it and *43# to enable it. I > experimented with putting ATDT#43# but this didn't seem to work. Not all modems will dial those # and *. If your modem supports them, you could use atdt#43#,number_you_are_dialing > > Regards, > Mike > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Taylor > miket@pcug.org.au > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Home Page: http://www.pcug.org.au/~miket/ > Michael Taylor +61 6 2575400 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > (INSERT CLEVER TAG HERE) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mustafa Soysal MS57 uupc@mistik.express.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:40:45 +1300 From: stephen@digitech.co.nz Subject: How to send Disable call waiting? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list ** Reply to note from uupc@mistik.express.net Thu, 9 Jan 97 10:39:53 -0500 > > > Does anyone know how to configure the modem file to send > > the code to disable / enable call waiting? > > > > In Australia it is #43# to disable it and *43# to enable it. I > > experimented with putting ATDT#43# but this didn't seem to work. > > Not all modems will dial those # and *. If your modem supports them, > you could use atdt#43#,number_you_are_dialing If your modem can handle it, I suspect that atdt#43#w555-6789 might work better. The w character waits for dial tone again - here in New Zealand that is what happens after you disable call waiting. Most modern modems will handle a w. -- Stephen Worthington Telephone: +64-4-569-6764 (home) Digi-Tech Communications Ltd +64-4-389-8909 (work) stephen@digitech.co.nz (work) Fax: +64-4-389-9901 (work) stephen@inisant.actrix.gen.nz (home) http://www.digitech.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:06:15 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: How to send Disable call waiting? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 08 Jan 97 21:59:19 +1000, miket@pcug.org.au wrote: > Does anyone know how to configure the modem file to send > the code to disable / enable call waiting? > > In Australia it is #43# to disable it and *43# to enable it. I > experimented with putting ATDT#43# but this didn't seem to work. That should work fine. Does your make the right noises with the speaker on? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "and i been riding on a ghost train where the cars they scream and slam and i don't know where i'll be tonight but i'd always tell you where i am . . ." - Mark Knopfler ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:56:16 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Interface to Netscape mail or MS Outlook mail clients To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 23 Dec 96 15:39:46 CST, gilbert@whatif.dseg.ti.com wrote: > I don't know if I'm subscribing to this mailing list anymore, so I'd > appreciate your reply directly to my mail address. Since your post go through, you're subscribed -- only members can post, to prevent SPAMMING. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:56:16 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Interface to Netscape mail or MS Outlook mail clients To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 23 Dec 96 15:39:46 CST, gilbert@whatif.dseg.ti.com wrote: > I don't know if I'm subscribing to this mailing list anymore, so I'd > appreciate your reply directly to my mail address. Since your post go through, you're subscribed -- only members can post, to prevent SPAMMING. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:09:30 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: I see the bug To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 08 Jan 1997 21:54:00 +0100, uupc-info@quijote.in-berlin.de wrote: > I have always wondered why all my failed logins happen. I suspected a chat > script problem. > > Now I used Ray Gwinns line monitor, and I can see the bug. Why did you use that? UUCICO has a -t option to trace what it reads. > The remote site, > named methan, sends > > >Shere=methan > > After that, UUPC does - nothing. It waits for timeout. Unluckily, the Shere > will not be sent a second time to start the UUCP protocol. Does UUCICO see the Shere (use -t). -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "and i been riding on a ghost train where the cars they scream and slam and i don't know where i'll be tonight but i'd always tell you where i am . . ." - Mark Knopfler ------------------------------ Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:54:00 +0100 From: uupc-info@quijote.in-berlin.de Subject: I see the bug To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I have always wondered why all my failed logins happen. I suspected a chat script problem. Now I used Ray Gwinns line monitor, and I can see the bug. The remote site, named methan, sends >Shere=methan After that, UUPC does - nothing. It waits for timeout. Unluckily, the Shere will not be sent a second time to start the UUCP protocol. I was unable to find out, _why_ UUPC sometimes responds to the Shere, and sometimes not. But it is clear, that the Taylor uucico of remote does what it should do, the error is on the side of UUPC only. hajo -- ====[Hans-Joachim Zierke]============================================== [Rathenower Str. 23 ] Zierke@Zierke.COM [ D-10559 Berlin ] privat: hajo@quijote.in-berlin.de ====[ 030 / 394 8447 ]============================================== ------------------------------ Date: 09 Jan 97 09:08:26 +0100 From: jpk@itc.or.at Subject: Lines starting with ~ To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, I'm not able to send Mails which contain lines starting with '~' using uucico 1.12r under OS/2; is this considered a bug or a known limitation? If it should work, I can post the logs for debugging reasons. Thanks for your help, byq, Philipp jpk@itc.or.at -- Johannes Philipp Krone e-mail: jpk@itc.or.at (private) Moedling, Austria - EU a9400665@unet.univie.ac.at (university) fax: +43-(0)2236-29297 436763004575@sms.maxmobil.at (sms) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 10:42:27 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: Lines starting with ~ To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I think you can escape them as ~~ > > Hi, > > I'm not able to send Mails which contain lines starting with '~' using > uucico 1.12r under OS/2; is this considered a bug or a known limitation? > > If it should work, I can post the logs for debugging reasons. > > Thanks for your help, > > byq, Philipp > jpk@itc.or.at > -- > Johannes Philipp Krone e-mail: jpk@itc.or.at (private) > Moedling, Austria - EU a9400665@unet.univie.ac.at (university) > fax: +43-(0)2236-29297 436763004575@sms.maxmobil.at (sms) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mustafa Soysal MS57 uupc@mistik.express.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 22:10:20 +1000 From: miket@pcug.org.au Subject: MR/2 ICE Mail client now supports UUPC (OS/2) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list The OS/2 Mailer MR/2 ICE now has UUPC support. I have been using it for the last three months and it works very well! You can get MR/2 ICE V1.2 from Hobbes and other OS/2 ftp sites as well as from the MR/2 ICE web page http://nick.secant.com/ I have no connection with MR/2 ICE or Nick Knight other than as a satisfied user (and the author of the UUPC support). The latest version of the UUPC support files can be found at the MR/2 web page as well as on my web page. Also on my webpage is the latest OS/2 version of tass, a freeware command line based newsreader. Regards, Mike -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Taylor miket@pcug.org.au ----------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.pcug.org.au/~miket/ Michael Taylor +61 6 2575400 ----------------------------------------------------------------- (INSERT CLEVER TAG HERE) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:00:42 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: New problem w/ UUPC & PPP connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 26 Dec 96 16:00:53 -0500, os2guy@crusader.jcdisciples.org wrote: > OK, I have a PPP connection w/ my provider and I can get UUPC to > connect via the PPP connection, but I am getting the following > error message: > > 12/26-15:50 callup: Connecting to ozzy via tcp on Thu Dec 26 15:50:03 1996 > 12/26-15:50 tsread: EOF on recv() > 12/26-15:50 Startup: Timeout for first message > 12/26-15:50 tsread: EOF on recv() > 12/26-15:50 0 files sent, 0 files received, 0 bytes sent, 0 bytes received > 12/26-15:50 0 packets transferred, 0 errors, connection time 0:03, 0 bytes/second > 12/26-15:50 Could not connect to remote system. Most likely, a bad password. Use -t option to trace the exchanges. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:00:42 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: New problem w/ UUPC & PPP connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 26 Dec 96 16:00:53 -0500, os2guy@crusader.jcdisciples.org wrote: > OK, I have a PPP connection w/ my provider and I can get UUPC to > connect via the PPP connection, but I am getting the following > error message: > > 12/26-15:50 callup: Connecting to ozzy via tcp on Thu Dec 26 15:50:03 1996 > 12/26-15:50 tsread: EOF on recv() > 12/26-15:50 Startup: Timeout for first message > 12/26-15:50 tsread: EOF on recv() > 12/26-15:50 0 files sent, 0 files received, 0 bytes sent, 0 bytes received > 12/26-15:50 0 packets transferred, 0 errors, connection time 0:03, 0 bytes/second > 12/26-15:50 Could not connect to remote system. Most likely, a bad password. Use -t option to trace the exchanges. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Bugs come in through open Windows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:05:15 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: New problem w/ UUPC & PPP connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 27 Dec 96 7:22:14 -0500, os2guy@crusader.jcdisciples.org wrote: > Ok, after getting rid of everything past the "" "" part of the dialin > script the error I was reporting went away. Now I get the following > message: > > 12/27-07:14 callup: Connecting to ozzy via tcp on Fri Dec 27 07:14:33 1996 > 12/27-07:15 Startup: Timeout for first message > 12/27-07:15 0 files sent, 0 files received, 0 bytes sent, 0 bytes received > 12/27-07:15 0 packets transferred, 0 errors, connection time 0:48, 0 bytes/second > 12/27-07:15 Could not connect to remote system. > > What is the deal with the "Timeout for first message"? > > Also how does UUPC know which account to log into when it does > the connection, since the dialin script doesn't have my account or > password in it anymore? > > My dialin script looks like this now: > ozzy Any tcp 57600 terrestrial.com:540 etvg No, you still need the user id and password. The previous poster merely meant to delete the extras. A good login: pandora Any TCPIP 57600 pandora.hh.kew.com e gin:--gin: \pUmyname word:--word: \pmypassword kew-dumbo Any TCPIP 57600 dumbo e gin:--gin: \pUmyname word:--word: \pmypassword Some sites may need: kew-dumbo Any TCPIP 57600 dumbo e gin:--gin: \pUmyname\r\cpmypassword\c\r -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "and i been riding on a ghost train where the cars they scream and slam and i don't know where i'll be tonight but i'd always tell you where i am . . ." - Mark Knopfler ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 19:22:49 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: Weird problem with UUPC 1.12r and 1.12p To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > I have been using UUPC for the last two years without problem however just > the last day or two the poll for mail/news is hanging. > > According to the uucp person the logs show that when transferring a news > batch (40-50k in size) my side stopped responding for 60+ seconds > therefore his system then aborted. No one else is having this problem. I have two suggestions: 1. change the packet timeout values (make them smaller) 2. use another protocol to get the problem file copied over. 'e' works better than 't', and 't' works better than 'g'. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mustafa Soysal MS57 uupc@mistik.express.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 22:07:36 +1000 From: miket@pcug.org.au Subject: Weird problem with UUPC 1.12r and 1.12p To: UUPC/Extended mailing list In <9701080022.AA0322@mistik.express.net>, on 01/07/97 at 07:22 PM, uupc@mistik.express.net said: >> >> I have been using UUPC for the last two years without problem however just >> the last day or two the poll for mail/news is hanging. >> >> According to the uucp person the logs show that when transferring a news >> batch (40-50k in size) my side stopped responding for 60+ seconds >> therefore his system then aborted. No one else is having this problem. >I have two suggestions: >1. change the packet timeout values (make them smaller) >2. use another protocol to get the problem file copied over. 'e' works > better than 't', and 't' works better than 'g'. Well, after two days playing I decided to reboot OS/2 Warp. This seemed to fix it! Does anyone know of a utility or configuration option to make the uucico abort if the call has been going for 1/2 an hour (or a definable amount of time)? Regards, Mike -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Taylor miket@pcug.org.au ----------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.pcug.org.au/~miket/ Michael Taylor +61 6 2575400 ----------------------------------------------------------------- (INSERT CLEVER TAG HERE) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 07:22:13 -0700 From: ghoti@lao-tse.lcrnet.org Subject: Weird problem with UUPC 1.12r and 1.12p To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 08 Jan 97 22:07:36 +1000, apin!pcug.org.au!miket wrote: [snip] > Well, after two days playing I decided to reboot OS/2 Warp. This seemed to > fix it! Does anyone know of a utility or configuration option to make the > uucico abort if the call has been going for 1/2 an hour (or a definable > amount of time)? You should be able to tell your modem to hang up if there's no activity after a certain amount of time. For the USR Sportster 14.4K, S19=x is the command, where x is the number of minutes of no data activity to wait before hanging up. -- Unsolicited email advertising WILL result in you being invoiced for my time to read it Email: ghoti@lao-tse.lcrnet.org WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:07:58 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Weird problem with UUPC 1.12r and 1.12p To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 08 Jan 97 22:07:36 +1000, miket@pcug.org.au wrote: > In <9701080022.AA0322@mistik.express.net>, on 01/07/97 > at 07:22 PM, uupc@mistik.express.net said: > >> I have been using UUPC for the last two years without problem however just > >> the last day or two the poll for mail/news is hanging. > >> > >> According to the uucp person the logs show that when transferring a news > >> batch (40-50k in size) my side stopped responding for 60+ seconds > >> therefore his system then aborted. No one else is having this problem. > > >I have two suggestions: > > >1. change the packet timeout values (make them smaller) > >2. use another protocol to get the problem file copied over. 'e' works > > better than 't', and 't' works better than 'g'. > > Well, after two days playing I decided to reboot OS/2 Warp. This seemed to > fix it! Does anyone know of a utility or configuration option to make the > uucico abort if the call has been going for 1/2 an hour (or a definable > amount of time)? Not if it hangs in a TCP/IP read. That's a blocking call (UUCICO uses it), if TCP/IP is too stupid to see the link hang, not much we can do. (Actually, we could set an alarm. Hmmm.) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "and i been riding on a ghost train where the cars they scream and slam and i don't know where i'll be tonight but i'd always tell you where i am . . ." - Mark Knopfler ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************