Date: Sun, 8 Dec 96 00:46:06 PST From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1996 #29 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Sun, 8 Dec 96 Volume 1996: Issue 29 Today's Topics: (5 msgs) "bang" paths in mail header Change the text for bouncing messages COM 7 supported? Filename conversion (3 msgs) Fossil at 115200 baud.. How about these stats ? (2 msgs) How to send *all* outbound mail to mailserv!system2? Moderated Newsgroups and UUPC/Extended News! Perfect news reader (2 msgs) Problems? 1.12s? q's tcpip issues UUPC/extended good as a SMTP to UUCP gateway? (2 msgs) what OS/2 UUCICO for sync PPP over ISDN? To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". 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(Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:14:08 -0500 From: narayan@drcreac.kar.nic.in Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Subject : using uucico Message-Id: X-Mail-Ref: 95 X-Mailer: XMAIL 3.0 generate-delivery-report: Request-Delivery-Notification: true I am using uupc12r for a dial-up email account with the local ISP.As I find that the speed is very low, I would like to use a comm program like Telix to dial, furnish the login and passwd details and then invoke uucico with the -w and -z options.I have not been able to do this after many attempts.I get a message indicating the correct name as 'shere'.Invoking uucico at this point with -w hostname and -z 9600 gives a failed message.Although an example is mentioned, I could not find one. any help would be welcome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:14:10 -0500 From: narayan@drcreac.kar.nic.in Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Subject : "current release" Message-Id: X-Mail-Ref: 97 X-Mailer: XMAIL 3.0 generate-delivery-report: Request-Delivery-Notification: true I am using uupc12r for a dial-up email account with the local ISP. The index command to KEW sent me a list on 5 Dec 96 saying "the current release is now 1.12p" But the package sent is 1.12r.What then is the "current version ?".I found the 1.12r listed under a "test" directory.Does it mean I am using a test version subject to some evaluation ? There are some files under the "Tools" and "Protocol" directories.Is there any info on what are the applications for these ? any help would be welcome. narayan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:14:09 -0500 From: narayan@drcreac.kar.nic.in Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Subject : using fossil drivers Message-Id: X-Mail-Ref: 96 X-Mailer: XMAIL 3.0 generate-delivery-report: Request-Delivery-Notification: true I am using uupc12r for a dial-up email account with the local ISP. The literature says FOSSIL drivers can be used with uupc.I would like to use this if it has any advantage over the internal builtin system.Is a better speed or thoughput or reliability etc achieved by using FOSSIL drivers ? How to get these drivers and cinfigure the uupc on my machine ? any help would be welcome narayan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 22:19:30 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:14:09 -0500, narayan@drcreac.kar.nic.in wrote: > Subject : using fossil drivers > Message-Id: > X-Mail-Ref: 96 > X-Mailer: XMAIL 3.0 > generate-delivery-report: > Request-Delivery-Notification: true Check the mail program you are using, numerous lines are showing in the body of the message. > I am using uupc12r for a dial-up email account > with the local ISP. > > The literature says FOSSIL drivers can be used with > uupc.I would like to use this if it has any advantage > over the internal builtin system.Is a better speed or > thoughput or reliability etc achieved by using FOSSIL > drivers ? How to get these drivers and cinfigure the > uupc on my machine ? Normally, there is not an advantage if the default drivers are supported. You can test. Quite frankly, the key words are 'on my machine'. I don't HAVE your machine, so I don't know what configuration parameters can be improved. FOSSIL drivers are available from many download sites. A couple of them, including BNU, are in our tools download directory and available via FTP, anonymous UUCP, or the listserv. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 22:19:30 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:14:09 -0500, narayan@drcreac.kar.nic.in wrote: > Subject : using fossil drivers > Message-Id: > X-Mail-Ref: 96 > X-Mailer: XMAIL 3.0 > generate-delivery-report: > Request-Delivery-Notification: true Check the mail program you are using, numerous lines are showing in the body of the message. > I am using uupc12r for a dial-up email account > with the local ISP. > > The literature says FOSSIL drivers can be used with > uupc.I would like to use this if it has any advantage > over the internal builtin system.Is a better speed or > thoughput or reliability etc achieved by using FOSSIL > drivers ? How to get these drivers and cinfigure the > uupc on my machine ? Normally, there is not an advantage if the default drivers are supported. You can test. Quite frankly, the key words are 'on my machine'. I don't HAVE your machine, so I don't know what configuration parameters can be improved. FOSSIL drivers are available from many download sites. A couple of them, including BNU, are in our tools download directory and available via FTP, anonymous UUCP, or the listserv. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:47:29 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: "bang" paths in mail header To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 16 Sep 96 08:56:04 -0500, alarie@ibm.net wrote: > I've been advised by an ISP that the "bang" paths in the From (not > "From:") line of the outgoing mail header may cause problems for some > mailers. > > Is an alternative format possible and if so, how/where is it controlled? Yes, and not very much. You can suppress it or shorten it, but I can't seem to get a handle on who wants what. Any clues, people? > Is the ISP full of beans? No. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:39:29 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Change the text for bouncing messages To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:41:13 +0800 (SGT), tulpen@pacific.net.sg wrote: > >On Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:16:39 +0000, THOMAS@aac.nl wrote: > >> Is it possible to change the text that is sent to users that the mail > >> is bounced for? > >> > >> I don't want this part displayed: > >> > >> "Invalid local address (not defined in PASSWD or ALIASES)." > >> > >> Also i want to add some general adresses people can send mail to... > > > >No, it cannot be changed, all the error messages are hard coded. I am > >open to be a better phrasing, I will not be customizing it. > > > >In general ANY problems with mail should be directed to the postmaster > >at the local site, I'm open to adding a generic fixed message to this > >effect. > > How about a minimal hardcoded sentence like "Invalid local address" and then > have uupc.rc allow a pointer to a text file that would be appended at the > end? Then postmasters could draft their own message. Possible -- I have use for it as well. Or maybe an additional in-line string, the fewer files opened the less possible mistakes. I'll file this for consideration. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Ginsberg's Theorem: 2. You can't break even. 1. You can't win. 3. You can't even quit the game. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:50:32 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: COM 7 supported? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:19:15 -0600, ccole@star-net.mn.org wrote: > Can COM 7 be configured in UUPC modem files for DOS? > That's port 3E8, IRQ 5 ie, COM 3 with IRQ5 > > The X00 fossil supports that easily. Trivial point ... I refuse to call the third port COM7. :-) UUPC/extended support would be via FOSSIL (or 32 bit OS) only. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:24:12 -0500 (EST) From: drubin@connix.com Subject: Filename conversion To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, I'm trying to write a "glue" program for Pegasus to use with UUPC. It is almost done, however I'm having difficulty finding out how to generate outbound filenames for UUPC like {#}@!# in the D directory that are called from the C directory CMD file. Any suggestions? thanks, Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:41:11 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: Filename conversion To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 2 Dec 96 at 12:24, drubin@connix.com wrote: > I'm trying to write a "glue" program for Pegasus to use with UUPC. It is > almost done, however I'm having difficulty finding out how to generate > outbound filenames for UUPC like {#}@!# in the D directory that are called > from the C directory CMD file. Any suggestions? (1) Don't write into the spool directory directly; use RMAIL, UUCP or UUX to accomplish this. (2) Don't reinvent the wheel. Several Pegasus/UUCP gateways have already been written. The simplest is to pass RFC-822 formatted files generated by PMail to RMAIL with -t. I wrote one recently which spools files via RMAIL, but I had to patch RMAIL to accept multiple addresses using an environment variable rather than the command line (which is limited to some small value around 120 chars). (One could accomplish the same for a single smart-host with UUX "out-of-the-box", with a little more work.) The details (source code etc.) are in the innards of ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/beta/uupln20d.zip (Further discussion should probably to go uupc-hackers@kew.com). Regards Stephen --- Stephen Marquard Western Cape Schools' Network http://www.wcape.school.za scm@silver.wcape.school.za / (021) 531-9361 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:41:27 +0000 From: THOMAS@aac.nl Subject: Filename conversion To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 2 Dec 96 at 12:24, drubin@connix.com wrote: > I'm trying to write a "glue" program for Pegasus to use with UUPC. > it is > almost done, however I'm having difficulty finding out how to > generate outbound filenames for UUPC like {#}@!# in the D directory > that are called from the C directory CMD file. Any suggestions? Yes, don't try to write such a program, because use this: ------------------- User Gateway Definition -------------- Gateway name : [UUCP_AAC ] *New mail path : \pmail\~8.spb Is  a program to run? : N *New mail search mask : *.cnm *Outgoing mail path : \uucp\out *Run for outgoing mail : sendmail.bat ~c *Filename format : ~d~d.CNM Run to validate address : *Reply address format : ~8@aac.nl Accepts SMTP addresses? : Y Simple message headers? : No formatting UUEncode attachments? : Y Burst messages? : N Gateway processes BCC? : N Strip gateway name? : Y Force all mail through? : N SENDMAIL.BAT ------------ @echo off ctty nul SET UUPCSYSRC=\UUCP\UUPC.RC SET UUPCUSRRC=THOMAS.RC SET TZ=CET \UUCP\BIN\rmail -t -f %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 > nul \UUCP\BIN\rmail -F %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 -w archive@aac.nl > nul SET UUPCSYSRC= SET UUPCUSRRC= SET TZ= ctty con Greetings, Thomas. --- Automatiserings Adviescentrum B.V. Consultancy mailto:Thomas@aac.nl http://www.rtv.nl/aac --- mailto:Thomas.Knoop@88-88-0-0.iwg.nl Private adress --- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:51:44 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Fossil at 115200 baud.. To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:25:05 -0600, ccole@star-net.mn.org wrote: > Is there a way to configure UUPC for a DTE speed of 115200 for a 28.8 > modem? > > X00 does it well, but the UUPC MDM file quits at 57600, and SYSTEMS > quits at 38400. > > Can one get the DTE locked at 115200 and get a connect > report of current DCE speed in UUPC? I think I answered this on hackers. The table I have only goes to 38400 for FOSSIL, did they drop 300 bps in favor of a higher speed in new speca for FOSSIL? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:48:59 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: How about these stats ? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:50:33 , THOMAS@aac.nl wrote: > Hours Hours AvCPS AvCPS # # # > Recv Xmit Recv Xmit Recv Xmit Con > ----- ----- ------ ------ ---- ---- --- > 3.48 1.30 1708 1284 1262 544 426 > > I think the CPS rate must be at least 3000+ CPS because that is what > i am used to on bbs environment :-), is there something i can change > in the modem.mdm or systems file to gain cps rate ? > > I've tried to play with the protocols but i can't see any difference. 'v', long packets, or 'g' long packets. keep in mind UUCP uses many short files and UUCP doesn't multi-task opens and the like, so more files lower the through-put. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 23:01:04 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: How about these stats ? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:41:56 +0000, eric@terra.xs4all.nl wrote: > >>>>> hajo writes: > > Protocols make a difference, problem is: The protocol that makes a > > difference is not there. This is called uucp-i. > > I agree that the i protocol could make a big difference, but that is > not the solution to why he gets these low transferrates. I use the g > protocol with a 14K4 modem, and my stats are quite a bit better. So > there are two probable causes: > > 1. The 'g' protocol isn't correctly configured on his system > 2. His providers has a problem > > > Uucp-i is not available in UUPC, because it is nearly impossible to > > do this under DOS. > > I don't use DOS so I don't see why I can't be emplemneted in the OS/2 > and NT versions. They should be able to handle that very well. Several issues: 1) For a UUPC/extended feature to be written which doesn't work under DOS, it has to be important, something which there is no workaround. uucp-i has such a workaround, since the other protocols (especially 'v') work with some impact, and free systems are available to run it native. (I do not claim 'v' is equal to 'i', for longer files it would not matter but for mail it will matter alot). For any higher end system, other tools exist (POP, NNTP, etc) which will forever doom UUPC/extended to being a niche for a low volume user, and for a higher volume server a Linux or (my favorite) FreeBSD system is better suited than any IBM/MS OS. 2) TCP/IP support and the associated 't' and 'e' protocols were done as an experiment by Dave Watt; as they provided unique function and have been relatively simple (if not in terms of code, in terms of fit) I have maintained them since. In this there is a tale ... if you want something, doing make is the fastest way, and doing it right (some it fits in) is the best way. 3) uucp-i doesn't fit in well, because the transaction (file transmission) level of the code doesn't allow transfers on-going at once. Doing requires a full rewrite of several modules plus the uucp-i protocol itself. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 23:29:58 -0600 From: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org Subject: How to send *all* outbound mail to mailserv!system2? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list All, I'm running 1.12p. Let's say my system's mail server is "mailserv". I need to route *all* mail I send to system2, which knows how to route mail correctly. (The mailserv system doesn't route properly.) I have a direct connection to mailserv. I have no direct connection to system2, and I'm unlikely to get one. So, I need to route all my outbound mail to system2. In effect, I'd like to have my mail server be mailserv!system2. I.e., my real mailserver is one "hop" away from my direct connection. How can I set this up? With the HOSTPATH file, I can route specific domains to system2, but I want any and all mail to go that route, not just a specified few. Any ideas? Regards, Chris -- Chris Winemiller Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org UUCP : ..!uunet!iphase!dinosaur!keys!cwinemil ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hey Rocky! Watch me pull some intelligence out of the Internet!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:30:09 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Moderated Newsgroups and UUPC/Extended To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:06:40 +0000, eric@terra.xs4all.nl wrote: > >>>>> uupcinfo writes: > > > On 07 Aug 1996 20:11:39 +1000, "Jeff Green" > > wrote: > >> How do I set up UUPC/Extended to work with moderated newsgroups? > >> I'm using UUPC/Ex for OS/2 v1.12k. > > > It doesn't support them at this time. (As of 1.12s). > > Are there plans to support it in the near future? No. Given how far back I am in just answering my mail, the soonest I would expect it would be next summer. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Steele's Plagiarism of Somebody's Philosophy: Everybody should believe in something -- I believe I'll have another drink. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:07:02 +0500 From: LBarone@thf.org Subject: News! To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:50:57 PST > From: slcb1bbs@juno.com > Subject: News! > To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Reply-to: UUPC-Info@kew.com > From: slcb1bbs > X-Status: New > X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 > > Greetings! Have you heard about SLCB BBS? This is a Fantastic bbs that > offers a wide variety of items. We have safe virus free Shareware and > freeware files for downloading, all types of message area's, online mail, Free Technical Support on computer related issues and much more! We > have a general public area which is open to all callers and does not > require any fee's to use. For those that wanting more than what is in > the general area we offer The Computer Club. Wether your a Shareware > Author needing a place to distribute your software or your searching for > the type of software and services you need we're sure you'll find the > SLCB BBS enlightening. We invite you to give us a call with your modem. > All it costs is your call. > SLCB BBS > Hours: 10 > PM - 12 Noon Daily > BBS # 319-347-6613 > 9600-38400 baud > No thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 22:11:24 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Perfect news reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:39:37 -0800, dan@fch.wimsey.bc.ca wrote: > In UUPC-INFO Digest 1996 #25, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my wrote: > >Just my wish-lists for a perfect newsreader... ;-) > > I've made many changes to SNews over the past while, including many of > the features on this list. I've been too busy to update the documentation > and finally take it out of beta test, but it will happen one day. The > other major step is to find a version of UUPC whose SNews support isn't > broken--I don't recall a version that worked out of the box since 1.11x > (although I haven't tested every version since, including the latest one). Try 1.12r, and tell me if it works. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 22:11:24 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Perfect news reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:39:37 -0800, dan@fch.wimsey.bc.ca wrote: > In UUPC-INFO Digest 1996 #25, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my wrote: > >Just my wish-lists for a perfect newsreader... ;-) > > I've made many changes to SNews over the past while, including many of > the features on this list. I've been too busy to update the documentation > and finally take it out of beta test, but it will happen one day. The > other major step is to find a version of UUPC whose SNews support isn't > broken--I don't recall a version that worked out of the box since 1.11x > (although I haven't tested every version since, including the latest one). Try 1.12r, and tell me if it works. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:55:21 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Problems? 1.12s? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:42:45 -0400, MarchHare@mome.apk.net wrote: > OK, firstly: Is 1.12s available? I saw a passing reference to it on > the list. I, as author, am always one release up on the world: 1 ? status UUPC/extended: 1.12s created Nov 21 1996 22:13:31 running under OS/2(R) 2.30 Magic Word: flarp Current time: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:52:30 -0500 Return address: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended Support" Domain name: pandora.kew.com Nodename: kendra Current File: g:/u/softwareinfo.spb Number of items: 180 File size: 444171 bytes Last updated: Sat Dec 7 21:37:38 1996 > Secondly: What is the deal with Clarkson? Lynn's FTP just shows an > empty folder (it worked in the past). Then, I got onto the web page > and noticed that the path was different. However, I get "denied access" > whenever I click on the links. Switch to ftp.kew.com. I've sent mail to Clarkson to get a pointer to kew.com on their system, no response at this time. > Thirdly: Is anonymous UUCP on "kewgate" working? Is the number still > 1-617-279-9816? Yes. Our 486 server is alive, well, and chugging away. It's also ftp.kew.com and www.kew.com. You'll actually rollover to 279-9817 most of the time, because we leave the PPP link up. > So, I am apparently without an index to get to and without a way to get one. Mail to listserv@kew.com: index And go from there. :-) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 22:10:10 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: q's To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:35:37, udo@pulstar.xs4all.nl wrote: > I noticed that uupc/2 1.12k puts the D.- and X.something files in the > same (D) directory; I thought that each . file had > it's own directory? Please hit enter once in a while. I had to manually wrap the lines, which discourages me from replying. I presume you are looking at the files for the remote system -- to the local system, they are not X and D files, but a pair of data files. Note how the call file is written to a different directory. > What's the maximum command line length for the OS/2 UUPC utilities > (rmail, uux, etc)? Depends on the version, 16 bit or 32 bit. Generally in excess of 512 bytes. > What's the limit for the combo of UUPC and 4OS/2? I have no clue. > Can you recommend a good (but small/simple?) newsreader for UUPC and Warp? We pipe it to various mailboxes, mostly. Lately, I've playing with netscape ... but the server side is FreeBSD! -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:26:19 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: tcpip issues To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm back ... more or less. So's my Pentium boot drive and second level cache, a tale for another day. On Mon, 09 Sep 96 08:56:42 , "Curtis Maurand" wrote: > On Mon, 09 Sep 1996 21:46:34 -0400, Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended Support wrote: > >Using 'e' protocol it should work fine via TCP/IP, that's what *I* > >connect to via a PPP link. > > He claims he only supports "g" but I'll try "e" right now Its timing out which is better. When I telnet to the system I > end up waiting forever. He needs to reboot. To my limited knowledge there are no UUCP's which support TCP but not 'e' or 't' protocol. He could be using a 'dumb' uucp and an external interface to it (telnet or an externally obtained UUCP daemon), but it's pretty silly -- Taylor is free, well done, and pretty much a reference system for any real UUCP site these days. As a side note, I've heard Taylor is hard to set up -- it took me 25 minutes on free BSD, I'm wondering if they others were clueless, or if maybe I know more UUCP in general than most people. :-) -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Steele's Plagiarism of Somebody's Philosophy: Everybody should believe in something -- I believe I'll have another drink. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:36:27 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: UUPC/extended good as a SMTP to UUCP gateway? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 13 Sep 96 11:57:22 EST, Russ_Lister@ccmailgw.cti.com wrote: > So, the thrust of the question is; Is UUPC/extended suitable for > acting as a SMTP to UUCP gateway for our email system? No. I'd get a Linux or FreeBSD system, the admin is no harder than figuring UUPC/extended, now that documentation exists (especially for FreeBSD). I may do an SMTP gateway within the next month, but the first edition will be limited in scope and I _really_ oughtta work on the bug list first ... and first, I need to catch up on my mail. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "There are three possible parts to a date, of which at least two must be offered: entertainment, food, and affection. It is customary to begin a series of dates with a great deal of entertainment, a moderate amount of food, and the merest suggestion of affection. As the amount of affection increases, the entertainment can be reduced proportionately. When the affection IS the entertainment, we no longer call it dating. Under no circumstances can the food be omitted." -- Miss Manners' Guide to Excruciatingly Correct Behaviour ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:42:21 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: UUPC/extended good as a SMTP to UUCP gateway? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:18:18 +0800 (SGT), tulpen@pacific.net.sg wrote: > >Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 11:57:22 EST > >From: Russ_Lister@ccmailgw.cti.com > > > > We use ccMail for Novell as our user email package and utilize a > > ccMail SMTP gateway package that passes outbound mail, via TCP/IP, to > > a Linux box that then passes it via UUCP to our ISP for world routing. > > > So, the thrust of the question is; Is UUPC/extended suitable for > > acting as a SMTP to UUCP gateway for our email system? > > cc:Mail sells a slightly brain-damaged UUCP gateway (which is based on an > old version of UUPC - 1.12b, I think) which may be worth looking into, if > you basically want to send mail using cc:Mail via UUCP to your ISP. 1.11q, actually -- pre-long packets. > Pity having to pay for it, though, but at least it's hacked to fit cc:Mail. Yup. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Ginsberg's Theorem: 2. You can't break even. 1. You can't win. 3. You can't even quit the game. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 21:37:16 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: what OS/2 UUCICO for sync PPP over ISDN? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sat, 14 Sep 1996 16:15:32, udo@pulstar.xs4all.nl wrote: > What UUCICO can I use best whEn a sync PPP connection is used? > The TCP/IP version or the normal version combined with SIO's VMODEM? NEVER use vmodem if the native application supports TCP/IP. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "There are three possible parts to a date, of which at least two must be offered: entertainment, food, and affection. It is customary to begin a series of dates with a great deal of entertainment, a moderate amount of food, and the merest suggestion of affection. As the amount of affection increases, the entertainment can be reduced proportionately. When the affection IS the entertainment, we no longer call it dating. Under no circumstances can the food be omitted." -- Miss Manners' Guide to Excruciatingly Correct Behaviour ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************