Date: Sat, 2 Nov 96 14:26:05 PST From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1996 #24 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Sat, 2 Nov 96 Volume 1996: Issue 24 Today's Topics: (no subject) GUI mail agent for UUPC (5 msgs) GUI mail agents for UUPC How do I change "permissn" file? (2 msgs) How not to run "newsrun"?? How to change mailbox format? News reader (5 msgs) TFS Delivery Failure: How not to run "newsrun"?? To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:13:51 -0500 From: narayan@drcreac.kar.nic.in Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Subject : uupc mailer Message-Id: X-Mail-Ref: 8 X-Mailer: XMAIL 3.0 generate-delivery-report: Request-Delivery-Notification: true Dear friend, I have a dial up email account with the local ISP. I use uupc1.12r and the command line mail program it has. I have to create/edit files every time a user is to be added or deleted or the system parameters change. Similarly the user has to remember the exact command to compose/read/send/copy/save/forward mail from the mail box.Irreversible mistakes have sometimes occurred due to this method. Please let me know if there is any GUI/menu based/driven mail package that will make life a little better. As I have Windows3.1 on the machine, please let me know if and how to use uupc under windows. I tried pegasus mail.As soon as I finished typing the first message, it says 'unable to recognise the header'.That is the end of the story! narayan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:26:15 +0100 From: pclerx1@euronet.nl Subject: (no subject) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list signoff uupc-info ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 00:30:02 +0200 (CET) From: oleperch@zaphod.ping.dk Subject: GUI mail agent for UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dear Narayan > Please let me know if there is any GUI/menu based/driven > mail package that will make life a little better. > > As I have Windows3.1 on the machine, please let me know > if and how to use uupc under windows. Maybe my OPMail program is just what you need. I have developed it specifically as a Windows frontend for UUPC. In fact, I am using it to send this mail to you. Its features include: * Simple to use. * No setup required, uses UUPC settings automatically. * Unlimited number of folders. * Unlimited number of messages per folder. * Drag-and-Drop messages between folders. * Smart Drafts folder to hold unfinished outgoing messages. * OutBox folder lists messages waiting for dial-up. * Comprehensive context sensitive help. * Full keyboard support. * MIME-compliant beyond the basic requirements: + Configurable external message editor. + Configurable external viewers for all MIME types (many are detected automatically). + Built-in viewer for text and multipart messages + Built-in handling of MIME types Message/rfc822 and Multipart/* + Transparent splitting and reassembly of large messages using Message/Partial MIME type; send fragment size is configurable. + Automatic character set conversion from CP based sets. + Automatic MIME Base64 encoding when sending binary files. + Automatic MIME Base64 decoding. + Automatic MIME Quoted-Printable encoding and decoding. + Permits 8bit characters in Subject and other header fields. + Configurable fonts for every MIME character set. * Automatic detection and decoding of embedded uuencoded files. * Automatic detection and use of PGP encryption/decryption. * Can invoke virus scanning for susceptible content types. * Automatic/semiautomatic receipt generation. * Anti-aliased font display. You can get it from any of these locations: ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/comm/opmail14.zip http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/email/opmail14.zip ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/email/opmail14.zip Sincerely, Ole Perch Jensen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.i iQCVAgUBMnk2dTeMksgjrTfFAQFQZAP+KqzOS/Jj1O+tWM9tICr0Hd4ZIPAVqU99 QTItV9juOeQOVmY5ANP9pgtn7UYfEAZd2pkdBaEzvEsIyzqaxURy9oJVLhGw2jiv z9A7K3zUAdjX3+EXLQL/p/75oc+TwklblX2iRgOT2EO5V63ib9KmsV1W32/Ywt+Z IYLSs6nim/0= =xWmo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 11:17:42 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: GUI mail agent for UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list In article <3279367b.zaphod@zaphod.ping.dk>, oleperch@zaphod.ping.dk wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Dear Narayan > >> Please let me know if there is any GUI/menu based/driven >> mail package that will make life a little better. >> >> As I have Windows3.1 on the machine, please let me know >> if and how to use uupc under windows. > >Maybe my OPMail program is just what you need. I have developed >it specifically as a Windows frontend for UUPC. In fact, I am >using it to send this mail to you. Does this OpMail handles news as well?? -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... Sam,Ziggy says you're a news Anchor on some show called FYI ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 20:47:58 +0200 (CET) From: oleperch@zaphod.ping.dk Subject: GUI mail agent for UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Dear Mr. Fahmi > Does this OpMail handles news as well?? No, but it is planned. Its schedule depends on the demand. Sincerely, Ole Perch Jensen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 10:03:50 -0700 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: GUI mail agent for UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 20:47:58 +0200 (CET), oleperch@zaphod.ping.dk wrote: > > Does this OpMail handles news as well?? > > No, but it is planned. Its schedule depends on the demand. Well, consider this message as an addition to the "demand". :-) What sort of message base format were you considering, should you add the news feature? -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 10:00:59 -0700 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: GUI mail agent for UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 00:30:02 +0200 (CET), oleperch@zaphod.ping.dk wrote: > Maybe my OPMail program is just what you need. I have developed > it specifically as a Windows frontend for UUPC. In fact, I am > using it to send this mail to you. I'll have to agree with the ease of Opmail's use. Although I don't use it regularly, since I normally run under DOS, I will use it if there's an incoming encoded message, or if I'm attaching a file to an outbound message. Opmail takes care of that quite nicely. If memory serves me, the installation/configuration consisted of putting it on the hard drive and running it. :) -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:26:49 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: GUI mail agents for UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 31 Oct 96 at 16:13, narayan@drcreac.kar.nic.in wrote: > Dear friend, > > I have a dial up email account with the local ISP. > I use uupc1.12r and the command line mail program it has. > > I have to create/edit files every time a user is to > be added or deleted or the system parameters change. > > Similarly the user has to remember the exact command > to compose/read/send/copy/save/forward mail from the mail > box.Irreversible mistakes have sometimes occurred due to > this method. > > Please let me know if there is any GUI/menu based/driven > mail package that will make life a little better. > > As I have Windows3.1 on the machine, please let me know > if and how to use uupc under windows. > > I tried pegasus mail.As soon as I finished typing > the first message, it says 'unable to recognise the > header'.That is the end of the story! If you'd like to use Pegasus Mail with UUPC, download ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/uucp/thurn07b.zip or email majordomo@wcape.school.za with the message get files thurn07b.zip.uue THURN is basically an installation and admin utility that will let you easily use PMail with UUPC. They work very well together. (A related system called UUPLAN does the same thing for networks.) Regards Stephen --- Stephen Marquard Western Cape Schools' Network http://www.wcape.school.za scm@silver.wcape.school.za / (021) 531-9361 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:00:37 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: How do I change "permissn" file? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I got UUPC installed on my ZIP drive .. that's F:. But I want to be able to download files from my ISP directly (via UUCP) to my C: drive. How do change my permissn file to enable me to do that. Currently my permissn file looks like this... MACHINE=jaring REQUEST=YES SENDFILES=YES \ commands=ALL read=/:~/ write=/:~/ I thought that the above settings would give permission to d/l files to drive but I can only d/l it to my spool\public directory. TIA. -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... Captain, Permission to hook up blender attachments to Mr Data ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 2:52:46 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: How do I change "permissn" file? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I hope you are still there... > > I got UUPC installed on my ZIP drive .. that's F:. But I want to be able > to download files from my ISP directly (via UUCP) to my C: drive. How do > change my permissn file to enable me to do that. > > Currently my permissn file looks like this... > > MACHINE=jaring REQUEST=YES SENDFILES=YES \ > commands=ALL read=/:~/ write=/:~/ **** This is *bad*. How do you feel about someone formatting your disks? > > I thought that the above settings would give permission to d/l files to > drive but I can only d/l it to my spool\public directory. > > TIA. > > > -- > Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my > 74744.1202@compuserve.com > ... Captain, Permission to hook up blender attachments to Mr Data > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:29:33 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: How not to run "newsrun"?? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm using UUPC/Extended 1.12p and am using it just as a transport. How do I specify "not" to run newsrun when running uuxqt as I just need to import the news articles saved as *.nns (with options=nns). Running newsrun has resulted in me having 2 news database, one created by newsrun and another by my offline newsreader. Another thing how do I post news straight to my ISP without having to spool it in my host spool files first. uuxqt will then transfer the spool to my ISP and once again running "newsrun" :-(. Deleting my "active" file seems to do the job but the beeping (from the error message) is annoying. Is there a more elegant way of doing the above? Thanks in advance. -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... Beep beep boop beep boop beep beep. - R2D2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:05:33 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: How to change mailbox format? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list How can I change my mailbox format to standard UNIX format. I tried putting "options=nofromsep" to remove the "" separator line but it doesn't seem to work. TIA. -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... Needed newsgroup: alt.tv.dr-who.adric.die.die.die ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 22:57:09 -0700 (MST) From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net writes: > > >I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with > >UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the > >directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any > >info would be appreciated. > > I'm close to having Newsy ready to use with UUPC/Extended. (Obviously, > I'm Newsy's author.) Newsy is both a mail and news reader. It > currently works with Waffle, but will shortly work also with > UUPC/Extended. Newsy runs only on Windows NT, Windows 3.1 (using > Win32s), and Windows 95. It's been a long time since I've used Waffle, and even longer since I've looked at Newsy. I'm running the Windows 3.1/Win32s combo. I'd appreciate it if you could keep me posted as to when it is ready to roll. > "Hey Rocky! Watch me pull some intelligence out of the Internet!" Looks like you've been reading some local (Edmonton) newsgroups. :) -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 23:13:33 -0700 (MST) From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Greetings, Hi there. > > I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with > > UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the > > directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any > > info would be appreciated. > > I am not sure what OS you are using, but with OS/2 there is trn at > ftp.leo.org. I think SNEWS does not use the directory format. It would have to run under either DOS or Windows 3.1 (possibly with the Win32s engaged). OS/2 isn't an option since I don't have the machinery to handle it right now. As far as SNEWS goes, it uses a database type of format. It's passible, but I don't really like it. -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 23:00:35 -0700 (MST) From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > In <3274d8ef.lao-tse@lao-tse.bohica.net>, on 10/28/96 > at 09:01 AM, ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net said: > > >I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with > >UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the > >directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any info > >would be appreciated. > > You could try tass. It is available from my homepage as well as from > hobbes as tass34x4.zip (ftp-os2.nmsu.edu). > > It uses the directory hierachy. I don't do OS/2. Insufficient machinery. Thanks for the info, though. -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 09:56:20 -0700 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:07:54 -0500, jeff@mindspring.com wrote: > > I would sure like to try it when it's ready... Please let me know. > > > >I'm close to having Newsy ready to use with UUPC/Extended. (Obviously, > >I'm Newsy's author.) Newsy is both a mail and news reader. It > >currently works with Waffle, but will shortly work also with > >UUPC/Extended. Newsy runs only on Windows NT, Windows 3.1 (using > >Win32s), and Windows 95. From what I remember of Newsy (back in my Waffle days), it was fairly slick in its operation. I'm chomping at the bit waiting for the new one too. :) -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 09:54:31 -0700 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:36:43 +0000, eric@terra.xs4all.nl wrote: > > I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with > > UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the > > directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any > > info would be appreciated. > > You could try one of the UNIX ported news readers like trn, tin Gnus > or others. I am note sure which ones are ported. I know that these > three work. I'll have to take a look around as soon as I get through the backlog of mailing lists. Seems someone upstream made changes and forgot all about the bohica.net domain while making those changes. Almost 400 messages from 3 mailing lists, plus some personal email from friends and relatives. > Of course you'll need a files system that supports the directory > hierarchy format, so I'll assume you use OS/2, right? But I think that > things aren't that different for NT. No OS/2, no NT. It'll have to fly under either DOS or Win 3.1 (Win32s available). UUPC does the directory thing if one doesn't specify SNEWS in the RC file. > BTW Gnus isn't really ported, it runs from within Emacs and if Emacs > is ported, Gnus will work as well. Although you will need to set a few > extra variables to let Gnus find the news. trn and Gnus are very good, > I'm not so happy with tin. I can deal with tin, if need be. There are nicer ones around, though. -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:04:24 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: TFS Delivery Failure: How not to run "newsrun"?? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Was is happening here??? I got this reply for every posting I made to uupc-info. bwhiteside@aur.com wrote: >Your message to the following recipients was undeliverable: >bconnell@aur.com -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... Was Aladdin the first Genie-us grant recipient? ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************