Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 20:26:05 PST From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1996 #23 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Wed, 30 Oct 96 Volume 1996: Issue 23 Today's Topics: Anybody manage to use Yarn with UUPC? (2 msgs) Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rn Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rnews? chat script madness News reader (6 msgs) Receipt of 1996-10-11 19.29 message routing problem sendmail to uupc mailboxes Tool for converting uupc folder to .html UUPC Expert Needed (3 msgs) To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:49:50 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: Anybody manage to use Yarn with UUPC? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, I don't quite understand a few thing :-(. Firstly, I thought Souper is for OS/2 and secondly you said, ..... In article <3263007d.mome@mome.apk.net>, MarchHare@mome.apk.net (Sysop) wrote: >FWIW, I use Souper to post articles to the NNTP server, which, in turn, >calls RNEWS. You mean you're running uucp over tcp-ip? If so, which rnews do you use, UUPC, Waffle or Souper's own? TIA. -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... "Just need something organic." * Holly ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 20:28:15 -0400 From: MarchHare@mome.apk.net Subject: Anybody manage to use Yarn with UUPC? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:49:50 -0800, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my wrote: >Hi, > >I don't quite understand a few thing :-(. Firstly, I thought Souper is for >OS/2 and secondly you said, ..... Yes, Souper runs on OS/2. So does Yarn and UUPC. >In article <3263007d.mome@mome.apk.net>, MarchHare@mome.apk.net (Sysop) wrote: >>FWIW, I use Souper to post articles to the NNTP server, which, in turn, >>calls RNEWS. > >You mean you're running uucp over tcp-ip? If so, which rnews do you use, >UUPC, Waffle or Souper's own? No, I run normal UUCP. Changi, the NNTP server, dishes up news out of the spool. Actually, the above is not quite accurate, as Souper calls INEWS, not Changi (sorry about misleading anyone). Changi and Souper are both setup to run INEWS directly, not RNEWS (two mistakes in my original posting, must've been a lack of sleep that day). Anyhow, I use the binaries from UUPC whenever possible. Souper has no RNEWS or INEWS. Changi has an INEWS that produces incompatible spool files, if you are using anything above 1.12k. Besides that, Drew has been at it longer, updates it more often, and provides a means of support. I don't know about the support issue, but I haven't seen a new Changi for about 18 months, and it was really just a patch even then. If I were only worried about news, then it probably would be a nonissue, but I like my email as well. Therefore, the spool files must be compatible. Hope that clears up my goofs in that message. John -- //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // momerath@apk.net sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT` // MarchHare@mome.apk.net ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD // ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA // .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA In case of stupidity, break glass. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:17:44 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rn To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 13 Oct 96 at 11:21, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my wrote: > I have managed to get a copy of uuplan16.zip but can't find the program > anywhere ... only the source is there. Is the installation program > suppose to compile it for me based on other perimeters or it's up > to me to compile it on my own? Can it compile using DJGPP? Or easier, is > there a compiled copy somewhere? Sorry, the compiled copy is actually in tablo208.zip I see on closer inspection :-). Available at ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/uucp/tablo208.zip or by email to majordomo@wcape.school.za with the message get files tablo208.zip.uue The source should compile with almost any c++ compiler. Regards Stephen --- Stephen Marquard Western Cape Schools' Network http://www.wcape.school.za scm@silver.wcape.school.za / (021) 531-9361 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:21:34 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rnews? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, In article <325e2d58.silver@silver.wcape.school.za>, scm@silver.wcape.school.za wrote: >On 11 Oct 96 at 10:53, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my >wrote: > > >If all you want to do is pass news batches back to your upstream news >feed without UUPC news "seeing" them, you can queue them with >UUCP.EXE (compressed or uncompressed). > >A simple program to do this is NWSUUQ, which is part of UUPLAN, at > ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/uucp/uuplan16.zip >(source code included). I have managed to get a copy of uuplan16.zip but can't find the program anywhere ... only the source is there. Is the installation program suppose to compile it for me based on other perimeters or it's up to me to compile it on my own? Can it compile using DJGPP? Or easier, is there a compiled copy somewhere? Thanks again. Cheers. -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... Ambassadors And Diplomatic Employees Posting In Alt.Flame ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 20:57:00 -0500 From: alarie@ibm.net Subject: chat script madness To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm flogging a chat script for a PPI 28.8 modem. Two problems. I've kludged a solution for the first, but am not pleased with it. 1) The modem will accept an initialization script as long as it consists of exactly one send string and one receive string. Example (works): "" "" "" ATZ 0 Example (doesn't work): "" "" "" ATZ 0 \pATV1... OK UUPC always says it expects 0 or the string in that position, but "gets" the second initialization string instead. The kludge is to send only a monolitic initialization string, but that is bound to blow up in my face before long. 2) The modem won't drop the line. I see no evidence that DTR is dropped for .5 second and the modem does not respond to ATH, ATZ, or and escape sequence - +++. All the lines stay high and the modem does not hang up before UUPC is finished processing. Has anyone done battle with this modem? Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Dave Alarie ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:01:48 -0700 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any info would be appreciated. -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 13:48:07 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Greetings, > > I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with > UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the > directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any > info would be appreciated. > -- > Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net > WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti > I am not sure what OS you are using, but with OS/2 there is trn at ftp.leo.org. I think SNEWS does not use the directory format. Best Regards, Mustafa Soysal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 06:44:21 -0600 From: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net writes: >I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with >UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the >directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any >info would be appreciated. I'm close to having Newsy ready to use with UUPC/Extended. (Obviously, I'm Newsy's author.) Newsy is both a mail and news reader. It currently works with Waffle, but will shortly work also with UUPC/Extended. Newsy runs only on Windows NT, Windows 3.1 (using Win32s), and Windows 95. Regards, Chris -- Chris Winemiller Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org UUCP : ..!uunet!iphase!dinosaur!keys!cwinemil ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hey Rocky! Watch me pull some intelligence out of the Internet!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 20:46:04 +1100 From: miket@pcug.org.au Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list In <3274d8ef.lao-tse@lao-tse.bohica.net>, on 10/28/96 at 09:01 AM, ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net said: >I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with >UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the >directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any info >would be appreciated. You could try tass. It is available from my homepage as well as from hobbes as tass34x4.zip (ftp-os2.nmsu.edu). It uses the directory hierachy. Regards, Mike -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- miket@pcug.org.au (Michael Taylor) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.pcug.org.au/~miket/ Michael Taylor +61 6 2575400 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Can I go to prison for this? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:36:43 +0000 From: eric@terra.xs4all.nl Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list >>>>> ghoti writes: > I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with > UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the > directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any > info would be appreciated. You could try one of the UNIX ported news readers like trn, tin Gnus or others. I am note sure which ones are ported. I know that these three work. Of course you'll need a files system that supports the directory hierarchy format, so I'll assume you use OS/2, right? But I think that things aren't that different for NT. BTW Gnus isn't really ported, it runs from within Emacs and if Emacs is ported, Gnus will work as well. Although you will need to set a few extra variables to let Gnus find the news. trn and Gnus are very good, I'm not so happy with tin. -- Eric Veldhuyzen TEAM OS/2 Eric.Veldhuyzen@si.hhs.nl CIS: [100010,3051] Eric@terra.xs4all.nl PGP-KeyID: 0xFB64FCB3 ********** FIGHT to keep your right to PRIVACY. Use PGP! ********** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:07:54 -0500 From: jeff@mindspring.com Subject: News reader To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I would sure like to try it when it's ready... Please let me know. Thanks, Jeff Simyon jeff@mindspring.com At 06:44 AM 10/29/96 -0600, you wrote: >ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net writes: >>I was wondering if there was a news reader that could be used with >>UUPC/Extended, other than SNEWS, RNR or CPPNEWS, and that uses the >>directory hierarchy rather than the database format, a la SNEWS? Any >>info would be appreciated. > >I'm close to having Newsy ready to use with UUPC/Extended. (Obviously, >I'm Newsy's author.) Newsy is both a mail and news reader. It >currently works with Waffle, but will shortly work also with >UUPC/Extended. Newsy runs only on Windows NT, Windows 3.1 (using >Win32s), and Windows 95. > >Regards, >Chris >-- >Chris Winemiller Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org > UUCP : ..!uunet!iphase!dinosaur!keys!cwinemil >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"Hey Rocky! Watch me pull some intelligence out of the Internet!" > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:57:00 +0200 From: janneb@jbdata.se Subject: Receipt of 1996-10-11 19.29 message To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Re:routing problem ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:16:38 -0600 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: routing problem To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:29:03 -0700, walter@themacks.phx-az.com wrote: [snip] > Now to my question: > > How do the R line, U line and From line interrelate? Looking at the files generated when I replied to a message, they all tell where the message came from, as in the writer of the message. > How should they look from my side? Here's what they look like on my end. The following lines are from email I wrote a few minutes ago to a friend: "U ghoti lao-tse" "R ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net" "From lao-tse.bohica.net!ghoti Sat Oct 12 06:59:16 1996 remote from lao-tse" Quotes are mine, so as to not screw anything up along the way. > How should they look from my provider's side? Your best bet, IMHO, would be to disallow UUXQT/RMAIL from doing anything with inbound mail until you can take a look at the proper files. That way you'd be able to see what's what, and run UUXQT manually for that bunch of inbound stuff when you're done. > What do we need to do to fix the problem? Good question. It may not be anything your setup is doing. I had problems a few weeks ago when, somplace along the line, an extra "@domain.name" was being added to a friend's address. My setup was okay, as was my feed's. It could be someplace upstream from you that's causing your problem. -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 20:55:38 -0400 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: sendmail to uupc mailboxes To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Greetings, I just got some minimal functionality using the deliver.exe file from tcpip/mail/rmailtcp.zip on leo for OS/2 with IBM sendmail. Deliver.exe will workaround a argument passing problem that sendmail seems to have, and will save it in either unix from seperated format or lamail format. To do his, I created a sendmail.cf from ultimail client, then changed the local delivery program as suggested by the documentation of rmailtcp.zip package. This way, you can use the uupc mail and elm programs with 'su' to read and write mail from different user ids. Sendmail will deliver it directly to the mailboxes with deliver.exe. uupc extended rmail.exe used to trap on that job, the reason seems to be a nonstandard argument passing on sendmail's behalf, according to rmailtcp documentation. My next goal is to substiture uupc extended rmail command for outgoing mail by sendmail, however, I haven't figured that out yet. CHanging the 'rmail' entry in the system configuration file to sendmail -t seems to have no effect at all. Any clues appreciated, Best Regards, Mustafa Soysal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:29:02 ARG From: adt@dia.edu.ar Subject: Tool for converting uupc folder to .html To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello, I need a tool that aid me to convert an uupc/extended folder to an .html file. Best regards, --- Alberto Daniel Teszkiewicz adt@dia.edu.ar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 11:10:40 -0400 (EDT) From: sjledet@ledet.com Subject: UUPC Expert Needed To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm looking for someone with experience to complete a UUPC to Xenix via direct null modem cable configuration for file transfers. Can be handled over the phone. Will pay good rates. Please help quickly. Send email Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338 2176 Heritage Drive fax.404-636-8477 Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:44:44 -0500 From: jeff@mindspring.com Subject: UUPC Expert Needed To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I have some experience with UUPC and a great deal of experience with XENIX/UNIX and UUCP. Please reply if you require assistance... Thanks, Jeff Simyon Johns Creek Software jeff@mindspring.com 11375 Ridge Hill Drive Alpharetta, GA 30202 At 11:10 AM 10/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >I'm looking for someone with experience to complete a UUPC to Xenix via >direct null modem cable configuration for file transfers. Can be handled >over the phone. Will pay good rates. Please help quickly. Send email > >Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338 >2176 Heritage Drive fax.404-636-8477 >Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:12:05 +0100 From: sjledet@ledet.com Subject: UUPC Expert Needed To: UUPC/Extended mailing list >I have some experience with UUPC and a great deal of experience with >XENIX/UNIX and UUCP. Please reply if you require assistance... > >Thanks, > >Jeff Simyon Johns Creek Software >jeff@mindspring.com 11375 Ridge Hill Drive > Alpharetta, GA 30202 > >At 11:10 AM 10/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >>I'm looking for someone with experience to complete a UUPC to Xenix via >>direct null modem cable configuration for file transfers. Can be handled >>over the phone. Will pay good rates. Please help quickly. Send email >> Yes. We need someone immediately. Please give me a call tonight, if possible, because the client is now considering pulling the project and going to Kermit instead. Here's the details: >> I have a client who needs to use UUCP for egular file transfers between >> a Windows NT Workstation 3.51 box running UUPC/extended and a Xenix box >> running uucp. Progress has been made and the Windows NT workstation box >> is logging in to the Xenix box, but we can't get it to do the file >> transfer. >> >> We need an expert who has experience with uucp and UUPC/Extended who >> can get this set up and running. Are there any consultants or >> programmers out there who could handle this for me? Please send email. We get a login prompt over the direct null-modem connection, but we don't get any sort of response after we send the nuucp user name. Here's the relevant part of the uucico.log file: (1) callup: Calling wip via dir at 9600 on Sat Oct 26 16:00:42 1996 (4) Tracing communications port COM3 in file C:/UUPC/spool/LineData.Log (2) sending "BREAK\r\d\r\dvg" (2) wanted "" in 3 seconds (2) sending "CONNECT" (3) dial: Modem reports connected (2) expecting 6 of 8 "ogin:--ogin:" (2) wanted "ogin:" in 40 seconds (2) got that (2) callup: sending 7 of 8 "nuucp" (2) sending "nuucp" (4) M state = K (2) rmsg: Timeout waiting for sync (0) Startup: Timeout for first message (4) M state = N (4) ==> ^pOOOOOO (2) rmsg: Timeout waiting for sync (4) ==> ^pOOOOOO (0) 0 files sent, 0 files received, 0 bytes sent, 0 bytes received (0) 0 packets transferred, 0 errors, connection time 0:48, 0 bytes/second (4) M state = P (3) hangup: Dropped DTR (4) suspend_other: No port to resume. (4) M state = Q (4) M state = B (0) Could not connect to remote system. (4) advancedFS: File system for "C:/" has name "FAT" (3) ImportPath: Mapped C:/UUPC/spool/locks.lck/*status.LCS to C:/UUPC/spool/locks.lck/)status.LCS ------------------------------------------------------------------ And here is the linedata.log which lists everything sent over the link: Trace begins for port COM3 at Sat Oct 26 16:00:42 1996 Write: CONNECT Read: wip!login: Write: nuucp Read: Write: Trace complete at Sat Oct 26 16:11:36 1996 Do you think you will be able to handle the job? If so, how much would you charge to make this problem go away? Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338 2176 Heritage Drive fax.404-636-8477 Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************