Date: Sat, 12 Oct 96 00:07:18 PDT From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1996 #22 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Sat, 12 Oct 96 Volume 1996: Issue 22 Today's Topics: (Fwd) UUPC as a UUCP transport for Mercury (Netware 4.1-NDS) Anybody manage to use Yarn with UUPC? (2 msgs) Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rnews? (4 msgs) NT API error 2 Problems with sending large files Putting email into news routing problem SMTP and uupc (2 msgs) Unssubscribe (3 msgs) UUPC as a UUCP transport for Mercury (Netware 4.1-NDS) To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:32:48 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: (Fwd) UUPC as a UUCP transport for Mercury (Netware 4.1-NDS) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list (Last copy didn't seem to make it through.) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Self To: uupc-info@kew.com Subject: UUPC as a UUCP transport for Mercury (Netware 4.1-NDS) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:53:55 +0200 For anyone interested, I'm about to finish a package which allows one to use UUPC as a UUCP transport for David Harris's MERCURY NLM, which runs on Netware 3 or 4 servers, including an NDS-aware version. This lets one hook up a large Netware LAN, either using Netware 3.x bindery or NDS on 4.1, and install Pegasus Mail (DOS & Windows versions) and Mercury, both of which are free, and use UUPC as a UUCP transport to the Internet. (Mercury is traditionally used for SMTP links with SMTP sending & receiving modules; only the Mercury back-end module is used here.) The beta version is at ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/beta/uuplan20.zip so far with out-of-date documentation. (It works with MERC130.ZIP, PMAIL340.ZIP, WINPM242.EXE, UPC12PD*.ZIP, UPC12PAD.ZIP, DMENU177.ZIP). Regards Stephen --- Stephen Marquard Western Cape Schools' Network http://www.wcape.school.za scm@silver.wcape.school.za / (021) 531-9361 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 14:20:03 -0400 From: MarchHare@mome.apk.net Subject: Anybody manage to use Yarn with UUPC? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:36:14 -0800, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my wrote: >Hi all, > >Just wondering whether anybody have succeded in using Yarn with UUPC? >TIA. You need something to gather the news and mail for you, such as Souper. If you have a pop3 daemon for mail and an NNTP server for news, then Souper works quite nicely. I know of no direct UUCP->SOUP method for Yarn. John -- //------------------------------------------------------------------------ // momerath@apk.net sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT` // MarchHare@mome.apk.net ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD // ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA // .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA In case of stupidity, break glass. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 15:02:42 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: Anybody manage to use Yarn with UUPC? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list In article <3258731b.mome@mome.apk.net>, you wrote: >On Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:36:14 -0800, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my wrote: >>Hi all, >> >>Just wondering whether anybody have succeded in using Yarn with UUPC? >>TIA. > >You need something to gather the news and mail for you, such as >Souper. If you have a pop3 daemon for mail and an NNTP server >for news, then Souper works quite nicely. > >I know of no direct UUCP->SOUP method for Yarn. Actually I'm using Yarn with Waffle on a standalone P.C. Waffle<-------->Solar<-------->Yarn Solar is a SOUP door for Waffle. I do have access to an NNTP server but only UUCP for e-mails. What I need is actually a more elegant way of converting SOUP<->UUCP as in my setup above, I need to keep 2 news database, one for Waffle and one for Yarn. FYI, I managed to import UUPC rnews batches directly into Yarn using Yarn's import program but don't find a way to directly export it back to rnews. Not being a programmer myself, i'm hoping somebody else has been there and done that. I've used UUPC before with SNUUPM and THURN but switched to Waffle when I discover Yarn. I still prefer UUPC and the program gets updated much more often than Waffle and more stable too .. to me at least :-). Regards -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... But Honey, you NEED Super VGA to run a database. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:53:43 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rnews? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm still trying to hack Yarn to work with UUPC. With the "options=nns" specified in my uupc.rc file, I managed to get rnews to uncompressed the news bacthes and import them direct into Yarn using its import program. My problem now is on the outgoing postings. Well yarn creates reply packets for all outgoing postings. I managed to get hold of a Rexx script to convert the news packet back into rnews batches but can't seems to get rnews to spool them out for uploading to my ISP. Each posting in the rnews batches is separated by the header "# rnews XXXX" where XXX is the blocksize of the posting Running "rnews -f filename" processed the whole batch as one posting. It ignored subsequent "# rnews XXXX" separators. I have RTFM the doc and can't find any other switch to enable outgoing batch processing. I figure if rnews can process incoming batches, there should be way to process outgoing batches .... or I might be wrong. Much appreciate if someone can clear this to me, Mr Derbyshire maybe?? BTW, is there any way I can batch processed outgoing e-mails as well?? If yes, how can I do it if the file is in standard UNIX mailbox format or UUPC mailbox format (username.spb) (or are they the same format??) ps. Just to make things clearer, what I meant by batch processing here is processing of multiple news/mails located in one file and not batch processing of multiple news/mails in each separate file. Clear as mud :-) ??? Thanks very much in advance. -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... HACKERS do it in batches ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:40:07 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rnews? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my (Nik Ahmad Fahmi) wrote: > >Each posting in the rnews batches is separated by the header > "# rnews XXXX" where XXX is the blocksize of the posting ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, should be "#! rnews XXXX" -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... "..Opps! Sorry Odo. Thought you were the mop bucket..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:44:25 -0800 From: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my Subject: Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rnews? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Must be sleepy .... another error. Sorry again. nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my (Nik Ahmad Fahmi) wrote: ..snipped > >Each posting in the rnews batches is separated by the header > "# rnews XXXX" where XXX is the blocksize of the posting > >Running "rnews -f filename" processed the whole batch as one posting. It ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually should be "inews -h < filename" >ignored subsequent "# rnews XXXX" separators. I have RTFM the doc and -- Nik Ahmad Fahmi e-mail: nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my 74744.1202@compuserve.com ... "You could say we're of two minds on the subject." - Two-Face ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:50:15 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: Batch processing news postings possible under UUPC's rnews? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 11 Oct 96 at 10:53, nfahmi@abdulla.pc.my wrote: > I'm still trying to hack Yarn to work with UUPC. With the "options=nns" > specified in my uupc.rc file, I managed to get rnews to uncompressed the > news bacthes and import them direct into Yarn using its import program. > > My problem now is on the outgoing postings. Well yarn creates reply packets > for all outgoing postings. I managed to get hold of a Rexx script to > convert the news packet back into rnews batches but can't seems to get > rnews to spool them out for uploading to my ISP. > > Each posting in the rnews batches is separated by the header > "# rnews XXXX" where XXX is the blocksize of the posting > > Running "rnews -f filename" processed the whole batch as one posting. It > ignored subsequent "# rnews XXXX" separators. I have RTFM the doc and > can't find any other switch to enable outgoing batch processing. I figure > if rnews can process incoming batches, there should be way to process > outgoing batches .... or I might be wrong. Much appreciate if someone > can clear this to me, Mr Derbyshire maybe?? If all you want to do is pass news batches back to your upstream news feed without UUPC news "seeing" them, you can queue them with UUCP.EXE (compressed or uncompressed). A simple program to do this is NWSUUQ, which is part of UUPLAN, at ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/uucp/uuplan16.zip (source code included). > BTW, is there any way I can batch processed outgoing e-mails as well?? > If yes, how can I do it if the file is in standard UNIX mailbox format > or UUPC mailbox format (username.spb) (or are they the same format??) > > ps. Just to make things clearer, what I meant by batch processing here > is processing of multiple news/mails located in one file and not > batch processing of multiple news/mails in each separate file. > Clear as mud :-) ??? Split them into separate messages and pass them to RMAIL with -t. Regards Stephen --- Stephen Marquard Western Cape Schools' Network http://www.wcape.school.za scm@silver.wcape.school.za / (021) 531-9361 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:06:07 -0400 From: sjledet@ledet.com Subject: NT API error 2 To: UUPC/Extended mailing list We have UUPC 1.2 installed on Windows NT Workstation 3.51 and are attempting to get it working off of an 8 port Digiboard. We believe we have it configured correctly, but when we attempt to make a UUCICO connection of any kind, we get the following error: NT API error 2 in UUCICO\suspendn.c at line 376... \\.\PIPE\UUCICO\ZZCOM3: the system cannot find the file specified. Has anyone else run into this problem? Any suggestions or avenues we should explore? Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338 2176 Heritage Drive fax.404-636-8477 Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:16:53 +0000 From: THOMAS@aac.nl Subject: Problems with sending large files To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello All, Since the time i've changed to the G protocol i sometimes experience problems with sending the files, this is the log: UUCICO: UUPC/extended 1.12p (Nov 8 1995 07:29:54) callup: Calling sun4nl via TDK at 38400 on Wed Oct 02 15:15:02 1996 aac connected to sun4nl: 38400 bps, G protocol, z grade process: Connection lost to sun4nl, previous system state = h 2 files sent, 0 files received, 942 bytes sent, 15 bytes received 78 packets transferred, 4 errors, connection time 0:33, 29 bytes/second (Systems file protocol: vGg) This situation will not solve itself, ik has been dialing for 4 days, then when i changed the protocol to 'vg' it was all solved. 1) Should i change the protocol via another entry in the systems file (so check on the errorlevel (wich one??) and when it is, call system with 'vg' protocol) ? 2) Is it something else.... Thanks in forward for your support, Greetings, Thomas. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas@aac.nl Automatiserings Adviescentrum B.V. Consultancy http://www.rtv.nl/aac Thomas.Knoop@88-88-0-0.iwg.nl Private adress ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 19:11:45 +0000 From: eric@terra.xs4all.nl Subject: Putting email into news To: UUPC/Extended mailing list >>>>> Fundacion CIPAV writes: >>>>> cipav writes: >> I have set up an email address to receive email from a particular >> listserv. I would like to have that email delivered to a news >> network, thats already functioning - so how do I get mail delivered >> from an email address into the news network. > Try something better: just use Gnus. > Eric, Thank you for the hint - can you tell me what it is and where > I can find it? Does it work under Windows 95? It is a news/mailreader written in elisp. In other words, it runs under Emacs. Emacs is available for almost every Operating system, so I think there should be version for win95 as well. If you can't find a native version, you can also get the OS/2 version. It is an executable that runs under both DOS and OS/2, so it should run under win95 as well. -- Eric Veldhuyzen TEAM OS/2 Eric.Veldhuyzen@si.hhs.nl CIS: [100010,3051] Eric@terra.xs4all.nl PGP-KeyID: 0xFB64FCB3 ********** FIGHT to keep your right to PRIVACY. Use PGP! ********** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:29:03 -0700 From: walter@themacks.phx-az.com Subject: routing problem To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm having a problem figuring out a problem with routing through an intermediate uucp node out to the internet. The symptom at the recipient's end is that the return-path is screwed up. It should be walter@themacks.phx-az.com, but it is walter@phx-az.com. Unfortunately this is fatal in ms-mail and cc:mail gateways, as the reply address is taken from the return-path field. Tracking backward, my intermediate service provider and I analyzed the X file and the "from " line in the mail. Here's what we found: ------------------------------------------------------- From my node (named themacks), the X file and the from line look like: R walter@themacks.phx-az.com U walter themacks F D.themack03tGr I D.themack03tGr C rmail wmack@aztec.asu.edu From themacks.phx-az.com!walter Thu Oct 10 10:58:43 1996 remote from themacks ------------------------------------------- From my provider's node to primenet the info looks like this: U daemon phx-az R daemon F D.phx-a35815W I D.phx-a35815W C rmail wmack@aztec.asu.edu From walter Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18: remote from phx-az.com ----------------------------------------- Now to my question: How do the R line, U line and From line interrelate? How should they look from my side? How should they look from my provider's side? What do we need to do to fix the problem? I would really appreciate if someone could shed some light on this. Best Regards, Walter Mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:51:32 +0100 From: kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de Subject: SMTP and uupc To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello Dave; alarie@ibm.net schrieb: > UUPC can pass off inbound mail in a couple ways. I'm currently using the > vmail option to write the messages to a directory where I process them > with a REXX procedure and call a delivery agent for Inet.Mail. I'm > working on a procedure to handle delivery via the "|" operator in the > HOSTPATH file. The HOSTPATH option requires less housekeeping and > administration than the vmail setting which requires a discrete ALIASES > file entry for each user. I'm working on other rexx procedures for uupc and therefor I pipe incoming mail to a cmd - I guess You do something similar. How did You solve the problem to get the end of the pipe. I can't find a way to pull from a pipe as long as there is something in it. I did a workaround, the user writes to a newsrobot and has either to provide and keyword 'end' or pulling is stopped after 5000 lines. This inacceptable in your case :), so You must have a better solution. Any hints? regards kp -- K.P.Kirchdoerfer Voice: +49 431 15479 Kronshagener Weg 65 E-Mail: kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de 24116 Kiel The Mission Is Terminated (TG 1982) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 22:09:49 -0500 From: alarie@ibm.net Subject: SMTP and uupc To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 10/07/96 at 11:51 PM, kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de said: >This inacceptable in your case :), so You must have a better solution. I'd like to say I've solved the problem, but I haven't gotten that far yet. I had been stymied by the windowed routine crashing when it tried to write temporary work files to memory. The NOIMFILE setting in UUPC.RC solved that. I've been too jammed up with other stuff to put the final solution together. What's coming in that exceeds 5000 lines? Is it an attached file? For the message itself I run a Do/End loop while Lines(message_file) > 0. The message is passed as the first argument from the HOSTPATH pipe operator. I haven't fiddled with the attached file scenario yet. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Dave Alarie ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 09:12:19 +0200 From: newsmaster@ukrnafta.kiev.ua Subject: Unssubscribe To: UUPC/Extended mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE ALL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 19:36:28 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Unssubscribe To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 7 Oct 96 09:12:19 +0200, newsmaster@ukrnafta.kiev.ua wrote: > UNSUBSCRIBE ALL See below for unsubscribe requests. Jeez. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "It is better to go into a corner slow and come out fast than it is to go into a corner fast and come out dead." - Stirling Moss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 20:44:24 -0600 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: Unssubscribe To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 07 Oct 1996 19:36:28 -0400, uupcinfo@kew.com wrote: > On Mon, 7 Oct 96 09:12:19 +0200, newsmaster@ukrnafta.kiev.ua wrote: > > UNSUBSCRIBE ALL > > See below for unsubscribe requests. Jeez. You mean we have to know how to read? My stars!! :) -- Email: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net WWW: http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~ghoti ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:53:55 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: UUPC as a UUCP transport for Mercury (Netware 4.1-NDS) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list <<< No Message Collected >>> ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************