Date: Sun, 21 Apr 96 21:51:04 PDT From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1996 #9 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Sun, 21 Apr 96 Volume 1996: Issue 9 Today's Topics: (3 msgs) download page wacky! Error sending files Help with provider mess long usernames OS/2 32-bit Problems with mail server files Questions rmail to several addressees suggestions UUCP problem on DEC alpha UUPC & cc:Mail To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:00:53 +0300 From: ai@vucnit.voronezh.su Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello! Does the Boolean option "longname" work? My attempt to use it failed :-( -----===== [begin uupc.rc] =====----- Version=1.12p NodeName=vucnit Domain=vucnit.voronezh.su InModem=USRS-14400-2 #InModem=MC-3266F Mailserv=insvch #MailExt=insvch Newsserv=insvch Organization=Voronezh State University Postmaster=klg TZ=MSK-3MSD Editor=q %s OS2.Editor=q %s OS2.Pager=cmd /c epm %s OS2.Priority=3 Options=multitask longname syslog suppresscopyright Options=askcc autoedit bounce dot backup Options=multiqueue pager purge verbose Aliases=d:\uupc\aliases.txt ArchiveDir=d:\uupc\archive ConfDir=d:\uupc MailDir=d:\uupc\mail NewsDir=d:\uupc\news PubDir=d:\uupc\public SpoolDir=d:\uupc\spool TempDir=d:\tmp Uncompress=gzip.exe -d %s -----===== [end] =====----- I have UUPC/Extended 1.12p, OS/2, HPFS Sincerely Yours, Andy Igoshin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:18:09 EST From: ironside@softnc1.softnc.com Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Addressed to: "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended Support" "UUPC Mailing List" ** Reply to note from "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended Support" 03/16/96 7:26pm -0500 > Actually, I _was_ piping mail into sendmail with REXX. I think others > have done it directly. Yeah, after reading the rexx odcs a bit more, it is possible, just a littel more work involved ;_) Tony Ironside Team OS/2 Os/2 Consultant I try to respond to all my email within 5 days if you get no response back, within that time, please resend the mail chances are for some reason I did not get it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:42:42 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:00:53 +0300, ai@vucnit.voronezh.su wrote: > Does the Boolean option "longname" work? My attempt to use it > failed :-( Depends on what you are using it for. It does NOT change the mapping of files in the spool directory, for example, for why, see the documents. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Remember, sometimes the dragon wins ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 07:41:27 -0400 From: postmaster@kew.com Subject: download page wacky! To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:43:49 -0600, "Brad Taylor" wrote: > Just to let you know, your download page > (http://www.clarkson.edu/~ahd/UUPC.download.html) > is confusing, especially for NT/95 and most of the > links are bad. I need to attack that. thanks -- they were set up for the previous release of UUPC/extended and not updated. Our associated server here directly on www.kew.com took three months to clean up just so it didn't point at the default sample hello page. Did you get the files you needed? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:10:55 GMT-1MDT From: Marthin.Stout@enterprise.cistron.nl Subject: Error sending files To: UUPC/Extended mailing list (I also send this mail to help@kew.com. But I'm not sure which address is correct) Hi there, We have a strange problem: using UUPC/extended we can receive mail but we can't send out any mail messages. What it comes down to is that UUCICO comes back with an error message like: ssfile: Cannot open file 0666 (alphen/#3%9%). alphen/#3%9%: No such file or directory Extended DOS Error Information: Number = 2, Class = 9, Action = 3, Locus = 1 (in which "alphen" is the name of the system we're connecting with). Again, receiving mail from this host works fine. I will send a file that contains the system-files and an abstract from the uucico-log to everyone that needs that. Can anyone please help me with this problem ? For me this is urgent ! Thanks in advance! Marthin Stout ---------------------------------------- mstout@able.nl Frambozenweg 159, 2321 KA / Postbus 1063, 2302 BB / LEIDEN / Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)71 5730 660 Fax/Voice-mail: +31 (0)71 5730 659 :)~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:34:48 -0500 From: XHelp@kew.com Subject: Help with provider mess To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:53:08 GMT, "Ashley Drees" wrote: > I have found what was causing the problem. Rmail was crashing when > it found an illegal address in the R line of an X file, of course ALL > subsiqent X files remained un-processed. All the offending files > seem to come via the daemon at our uplink gn.apc.org, who have > recently changed their mail machine and sendmail, needless to say > this was not happening on the old system.. :-( > > I am using the 32 bit binaries on Windows95, but getting the same on > an NT site using the same setup as me. > > rmail log for one transaction. > > The offending "X" file > > U daemon gn > # return status on failure > Z > # use sh to execute > e > # return address for status or input return > R %@gn.apc.org > # job id for status reporting > J ashM070a > F D.gn02e88cf > I D.gn02e88cf > C rmail mail!ash > > The co-responding "D" file > > From %@gn.apc.org Wed Feb 14 02:24:21 1996 remote from gn Yea, RMAIL would fail to trap this and fail on a bad pointer scan. As I did add more robust address trapping for 1.12p or 1.12r, adding the additional check for such bad constructs is straight forward and will be included in 1.12s, when available. (I did just now, I still have to test it.) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 MASOCHIST: Windows SDK programmer with a smile! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:14:17 -0500 From: Software@kew.com Subject: long usernames OS/2 32-bit To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 19 Mar 96 10:01:08 -0800, "Tommy Henderson" wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Mar 96 17:42:49 -0800, "Tommy Henderson" wrote: > > > I am still running UUPC/Extended 1.12j (OS/2 32-bit, long file names), > > > as I use it for my company's email and cannot afford problems with a > > > new release. I discussed this with Drew a few months ago and decided > > > to stay with this version as there were problems with news handling > > > in 1.12p at that time. > > > > > > I have just come across a shortcoming in 1.12j, which might have been > > > changed recently. We need to add the user 'webmaster' to our email > > > system. Everything seems to work fine with this name except su.cmd > > > and rmail.exe. I just searched the email from the mailing list about > > > changes from 1.12b through 1.12p (dated November 1995), but I did not > > > find any mention of this having been changed. > > > > > > Has UUPC/Extended been (or will it be) modified to handle email > > > account names longer than eight characters? > > > > The user name (mailbox=) need not match the RC file name, for example > > Yes, I have experimented with this. > > > postmaster on kew.com uses postmast.rc with mailbox=postmaster on a FAT > > file system. > > Yes, but what is the name of postmaster's inbox? I suspect that it > is postmast (or postmast.mbx). I would expect FAT to just truncate > the name so that the mailer would look in postmast, even if it attempts > to open postmaster; however, the mailer would send mail from postmaster > (an acceptable workaround). Yes. > With long file names, however, if I use webmaste.rc with > mailbox=webmaster (passwd file entry is also webmaster), rmail places > incoming mail in webmaste, but when I su to webmaste, elm correctly > looks in webmaster. That's elm's problem. :-) > I just took a couple minutes to look at the source code for 1.12j. > The problem seems to be that mkmailbox() (lib\mkmbox.c) called by > DeliverLocal() (mail\deliver.c, line 461) always truncates the > mailbox name to eight characters, even if the system is using long > file names. Have you or do you plan to change this behavior so that > long user ids will be supported by rmail and whatever else in UUPC? Unlikely, due the press of other work and compatibility with native UNIX systems. Basically, UUPC/extended is internally consistent, for example MAIL will correctly look in WEBMASTE. if you really want mail in webmaster, you can use the aliases file to force initial delivery to there by forcing it to the file name. I would actually alias webmaster to a shorter name (webmast?) or to a real user. Note that UNIX does not support user ids longer than eight characters and most UNIX UUCP systems do not support longer than eight character userids for remote UUCP commands, which causes me to discourage long user ids. (Remote UNIX systems have been known to have their UUCICO programs crash when UUPC/extended used to send the full user id to them.) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "Then I heard that long whistle whine . . ." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 20:34:03 -0500 From: Software@kew.com Subject: Problems with mail server files To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:48:02 -0500, "William A. Craig" wrote: > I used: > > get uupcwnt.pkg > > Got the following: > > upc12pad.zip > > Did not get the following files: > > upc12pr1.zip > upc12pr2.zip > upc12pr3.zip > > Below is the mail server status: > ------------------------------------------------ > Mail server status message from Listserv@kew.com > > There are 1 requests queued ahead of yours. Your request(s) > will be mailed to you as soon as possible. > > A transcript of the session follows: > ------------------- > > get uupcwnt.pkg > > The file you have requested, uupcwnt.pkg, has been superceded. > The new file uupcwnt.pkg is being requested in it's place. > > > The file you have requested, uupcwnt.pkg, has been superceded. > The new file uupcwnt.pkg is being requested in it's place. > > Request for UUPCWNT.PKG queued for processing. (594 bytes) > 1142 bytes will be sent in 1 sections. > > > get 00readme.now > Request for 00README.NOW queued for processing. (6745 bytes) > 7294 bytes will be sent in 1 sections. > > > get upc12pad.zip > Request for UPC12PAD.ZIP queued for processing. (472189 bytes) > 667885 bytes will be sent in 11 sections. > > > get upc12pr1.zip > The file you requested is not available. > > -- Command failed: get upc12pr1.zip > > get upc12pr2.zip > The file you requested is not available. > > -- Command failed: get upc12pr2.zip > > get upc12pr3.zip > The file you requested is not available. Whooops! I fixed the script to correctly get upc12rn?.zip (I clobbered the 'n' instead of the 'p' when I changed from 'p' to 'r'). -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "Linux, the choice of a GNU generation." - anonymous .sig file ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 08:58:40 EDT From: garyn@VNET.NET Subject: Questions To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello, I just downloaded and set up UUCP software for OS/2. I noticed in one of kew's email messages that you caution not to use the 32-bit version, which I have been using today. What are the problems with it? What can happen if I use it? When converting to the 16-bit version, can I just overwrite the executables and keep the configuration files I have set up? A couple of fast questions re: operation -- Does anyone have a *.mdm file for a Hayes Optima 14.4? The *.mdm files I downloaded from Hobbes are kind of old. I received an error about unable to use "E C:\tcpip\tmp\uupcXXXX.TXT" or whatever. I presume it can not fire up the E.EXE editor and log that temp file. Why and how may I fix? Gary Nielson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:57:27 +0200 From: lanz@sampling.uem.mz Subject: rmail to several addressees To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I use rmail (1.12p DOS) in RFC-822 mode to put sent mail from my mail programm in the appropriate directories for further delivery via uucico to my mailserver at university. Rmail creates for every addressee of the mail message 3 files (you know that). If you send a mail to 100 addressees (say), you send a lot of stuff through your telephone line, and 100 times the same file!!! Any work around? It's a pitty I don't know UNIX: would a line like "C rmail address1 address2 ... address100" in the execute file be understood from the mailserver? Yes? How can I tell UUPC to do it in this way? Thanks, Adrian. --- Adrian LANZ Avenida Julius Nyerere 446-14, Maputo, Mozambique phone: +258-1-495078 --- Please ask for a post address, and don't forget to try the mailing list maputo by sending "help maputo" or "subscribe maputo" (either commands without quotes) to --- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 07:46:18 -0500 From: XHelp@kew.com Subject: suggestions To: UUPC/Extended mailing list My comments on Talyor UUCP may be general interst, so I cc'ed this to the list. > A nice optional listserv command might be BUNDLE, a command to ZIP and > fetch named digest copies or such. This would be a function for VMS, which is not our package. We're just users of it. The failure of VMS to support OS/2 makes me less than interested in trying to write a command script for it that would fit in DOS memory -- I've got enough problems with my own programs, especially news. > Similary, I'd appreciate being able to FTP the latest digest95.ZIP or > digest96.ZIP collection from Clarkson. Might be easy to automate > forwarding a copy of the zip file whenever a new digest is added. I'm > looking for setup examples of all the cute tricks you mention in the > docs and are not exemplified in 1.12j (just got 1.12p). Just subscribe to the digest. That's why we maintain the mailing list. I try to not exploit Clarkson's generosity by loading other than core files on their server. > Is a Mac version of uupc still alive and keeping up-to-date? Ask the author, Dave Platt. He is cc'ed on this note. > I haven't seen mention of the Linux/GNU C/C++ compilers being used, nor > of any flavor of uupc for operation under Linux. I only use commerical compilers (Microsoft and IBM) because I have no time to deal with the inconsistencies of the freeware compilers or porting the Makefile to GNU make. > Do these precedents > exist? Yeah, I know Elm and such exist there, but uupc has its own appeal > and functionality in my universe. I'm interested in a MiniLinux version > that uses MSDOS disk formats for files and is almost seamlessly > integrated with the DOS/WIN/unix world for DOS-mostly file interops. There no such plans. Talyor UUCP, already widely used on Linux, is a more powerful core UUCP program than UUPC/extended because it better exploits the 32 bit environment and UNIX API's, and numerous mail and news programs abound for use with Taylor. UUPC/extended's strength is it will run in the various Intel based PC environments including the memory constrainted ones such as DOS. Furthermore, it does so without many add-ons (newsreaders being a noted exception) I see no reason my resources to be further stretched trying to beat Ian at his own game, particularlly a game I highly approve his being in. :-) I happen to know that Ian Lance Taylor once installed UUPC/extended for use on a family member's PC -- likewise, if I get Linux or another UNIX up here, I'd run Taylor UUCP on the box rather than even _thinking_ about running UUPC/extended on it. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "Actually, it's a little more complicated than that . . ." - The Grey-eyed Elf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:08:32 +0700 (TST) From: victor@ksc.net.th Subject: UUCP problem on DEC alpha To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, I use UUPC extebded v1.12 DOS / OS2 to dial into a DEC alpha machine. UUCICO connects just fine and the file transfer from/to it works ok. The problem start whem rmail wants to execute sendmail. It comes back with an error status 1 - sendmail could not execute. The ISP told me that I have all the rights to sendmail, they even put it into my home directory -still the problem remains, I can not send any mail out. The receiving part is kinda' funny as well. Anyone can send mail to me ,bbut will get a "mail undeliverable" message back, anyway I GET THE MAIL ! Is there any strange setup with DEC'S UNIX ? Security problem ? If anyone has ever set up a DEC machine with a UNIX UUCP, please let me know the "secret" Mat //////// CIMCO// FROM CIMCO Ltd. Bangkok 12th floor, BUI Building 177/1 Surawong Road Bangkok 10500, Thailand Tel: 634 7450-5 FAX: 634 7137 Hotline: 634 7135 Modem: 634 7136 STANDARD DISCLAIMER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:39:25 From: ivaudrey@rowland.co.uk Subject: UUPC & cc:Mail To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, Does anyone have any experience of using UUPC/extended as a gateway for cc:Mail? Is this the correct place to ask? - Ian Vaudrey Network Administrator H C Rowland & Co Ltd ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************