Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 14:06:10 PST From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1995 #49 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Fri, 8 Dec 95 Volume 1995: Issue 49 Today's Topics: batched mail Character Conversion Cinetic Mail Manager Replacement (2 msgs) Good news (sort of) (2 msgs) mailing list processors Mailing List software mail routing (2 msgs) modem troubles (2 msgs) OS/2 mail reader compatible with UUPC/Extended READ THIS UUCICO uupc with windows tcpip where can I download UUPC To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. Note: Questions on UUPC/extended itself which are not of general interest should be sent to help@kew.com, not to the mailing list. Nor questions should be posted on Usenet, we don't read it. (Much.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 07:21:30 CET From: peter@pgeck.sub.org Subject: batched mail To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, next problem: I am sending and receiving batched mail. There is a nice tool for waffle handling that. Is there something like that for UUPC which obviously has no rsmtp, rcsmtp etc.? Bye Peter -- Peter Gahbler UUCP: peter@pgeck.sub.org Richard-Vosgerau-Str.3 FIDO: Peter Gahbler, 2:240/3014.2 D-24340 Eckernfoerde voice: +49 4351 86249 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 07:19:34 CET From: peter@pgeck.sub.org Subject: Character Conversion To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, I have been using waffle (OS/2 dos box) for a long time. Now it is necessary to use uucp via IP so I am trying UUPC with the additional advantage of a native OS/2 program. Of course I am getting into problems ;-|. Now I am using mailreader and newsreader which are taking care of special characters like 'öäü' and convert them to ISO8859-1. How to do the same thing with UUPC? Will the same problem appear using the port of elm for OS/2 with UUPC? Bye Peter -- Peter Gahbler UUCP: peter@pgeck.sub.org Richard-Vosgerau-Str.3 FIDO: Peter Gahbler, 2:240/3014.2 D-24340 Eckernfoerde voice: +49 4351 86249 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 09:45:51 -0500 From: dan-list@peergroup.com Subject: Cinetic Mail Manager Replacement To: UUPC/Extended mailing list For the last several years we have been using the Cinetic Mail Manager for Windows with UUPC. Unfortunately, it does not work well on 32 bit platforms, and the authors have indicated that they do not wish to continue supporting it. Can anyone recommend a replacement mail client that will run well on Windows 95 and Windows NT? Can the Microsoft Mail client be made to use UUPC as a gateway? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Dan Gould The PEER Group Inc. |Voice : (519)763-4445 P.O. Box 1325 |Fax : (519)763-4127 Guelph, Ontario |Internet: dan@peergroup.com Canada N1H 6N8 | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 12:32:35 +0200 From: scm@silver.wcape.school.za Subject: Cinetic Mail Manager Replacement To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 7 Dec 95 at 9:45, dan-list@peergroup.com wrote: > For the last several years we have been using the Cinetic Mail > Manager for Windows with UUPC. Unfortunately, it does not work > well on 32 bit platforms, and the authors have indicated that > they do not wish to continue supporting it. > > Can anyone recommend a replacement mail client that will run > well on Windows 95 and Windows NT? Can the Microsoft Mail > client be made to use UUPC as a gateway? Windows Pegasus Mail (WinPMail) now seems to be stable on Win95 (not sure about WinNT). It works well with UUPC with a package called THURN: ftp://ftp.wcape.school.za/pub/msdos/thurn05.zip or email to majordomo@wcape.school.za with the message "get files thurn05.zip.uue". This uses the DOS UUPC version. I believe there is also a shareware gateway somewhere for MS-Mail / UUPC. Regards Stephen --- Stephen Marquard, scm@silver.wcape.school.za 12 Silverdale, Pinelands 7405, Cape Town, SA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 09:46:14 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Good news (sort of) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 4 Dec 1995 07:42:45 -0400 (AST), colmarr@conicit.ve wrote: > I am still boxing with the (so far unsuccesful) connection to my uucp provider > over tcp/ip, but I recently received some GOOD NEWS from Dirk in Germany. He > says that he got *his* uucp over tcp/ip _working_ and on the first try, even. > So there is still hope for us here, too... > > I'd like to know from you, him and any others what a succesful configuration > should look like. I.e., what would be the recommended OS and what PPP package > works, also what uucp provider to use and/or how the polled system should be set > up so this works smooth. > I know this request sounds like a mouthful, but if someone has it > working, or if Please cease and desist your current thread of mail to the list. While I fully support UUCICO over a working TCP/IP connection (see following paragraph), I have attempted to explain to you a number of times you have yet to demonstrate working TCP/IP connection, and rather than doing so you connect to pester me personally and the list in general fishing for the reason your particular site doesn't work. These repeated queries are taking of a considerable amount of my time, so again: Please Cease and Desist. As a point of fact, it works fine for me connecting either two UUPC/extended systems (normally, I use a loopback) or to a real Internet host (either of my Internet feeds) running Taylor UUCP. I connect using 'e' protocol using Warp Connect and the IBM Internet connection to get out. My systems file looks like this: ci-feed Any TCPIP 57600 feed.ci.net e gin: Ukendra\rpassword While I typed this, my connection to the above system sent 70 files I have given you your next instructions on how to solve your problems, you have yet to report to me that you followed them, nor has Mustafa reported to me a specific problem with UUPC/extended for me to fix. Until do you follow my instructions and perform the test (telneting to the remote port), please DO NOT post further to UUPC-Info _or_ send me mail. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on? A. A 35 mm slide projector. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 6:14:27 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: Good news (sort of) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > On Mon, 4 Dec 1995 07:42:45 -0400 (AST), colmarr@conicit.ve wrote: > > I am still boxing with the (so far unsuccesful) connection to my uucp provider > > over tcp/ip, but I recently received some GOOD NEWS from Dirk in Germany. He > > says that he got *his* uucp over tcp/ip _working_ and on the first try, even. > > So there is still hope for us here, too... > > > > I'd like to know from you, him and any others what a succesful configuration > > should look like. I.e., what would be the recommended OS and what PPP package > > works, also what uucp provider to use and/or how the polled system should be set > > up so this works smooth. > > > I know this request sounds like a mouthful, but if someone has it > > working, or if > > Please cease and desist your current thread of mail to the list. While > I fully support UUCICO over a working TCP/IP connection (see following > paragraph), I have attempted to explain to you a number of times you > have yet to demonstrate working TCP/IP connection, and rather than doing > so you connect to pester me personally and the list in general fishing > for the reason your particular site doesn't work. These repeated > queries are taking of a considerable amount of my time, so again: Please > Cease and Desist. errr, btw, at the risk of getting kicked out again....This isn't exactly customer frendly... > > As a point of fact, it works fine for me connecting either two > UUPC/extended systems (normally, I use a loopback) or to a real Internet > host (either of my Internet feeds) running Taylor UUCP. I connect using > 'e' protocol using Warp Connect and the IBM Internet connection to get > out. > > My systems file looks like this: > > ci-feed Any TCPIP 57600 feed.ci.net e gin: Ukendra\rpassword > > While I typed this, my connection to the above system sent 70 files > > I have given you your next instructions on how to solve your problems, > you have yet to report to me that you followed them, nor has Mustafa > reported to me a specific problem with UUPC/extended for me to fix. ;) Perharps it is because I have given up on my expectations of a 'fix'. I asked you specifically for the visualage make situation, you still have not provided instructions on what sort of output you want and how to obtain it. I am trying to compile it myself because I want to fix it. I don't have confidence that you will fix the bugs I report. You have not demonstrated such so far. Instead, I got lipservice for next release which didn't come around while I was on the list. Then I didn't get an announcement of the p version either....Still no printed manuals, etc etc... Here is a bunch of problems other than those I reported. uucico does not run in the server mode over tcp properly. It seems that the socket configuration is wrong. As a result, you ar getting an error code that can mean both a broken connection or just empty buffer at the time you poll. You are interpreting it as a broken connection. Therefore, the server will quit the connection. Now, I need instructions on how to compile this beast since the makefile is no good. (I have to check yet on the programmers toolkit installation issue) > Until do you follow my instructions and perform the test (telneting to > the remote port), please DO NOT post further to UUPC-Info _or_ send me > mail. Telnetting to port 540 is a bad idea. You know why? Because uucico will get confused and will report that the address is in use and loop until something or other times out. And, during the wntire time, it will beep the hell out of the neighbourhood. So I told him not to telnet and I am glad he followed my instructions. Another bad thing about telnetting is, that telnet will send some negotiation stuff which will ruin the username. Therefore, it will give a bad login. The '\' option seems not to work. Note that due to system reasons, uucico is invoked directly from a script, not from uupoll or like. Furthermore, telnet sends a crlf which results in an empty (bad) password for the account. It is useless. However, the test of a properly functioning telnet package on the windows machine is something that needs to be tested first. Somehow, there seems to be no software that works....Is that right? > > -ahd- > -- > Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com > Telephone: 617-641-3452 > > To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the > body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the > list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to > snuffles@kew.com. > > Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on? > A. A 35 mm slide projector. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 00:05:07 -0500 From: Software@kew.com Subject: mailing list processors To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Due a continued lack of support from the vendor for the mailing list processor we here use here, I'm considering looking for a new one. The primary requirement is that it run natively on OS/2, and support subscription and distribution of open and closed mailing lists. I desire also support of text and binary (UUENCODED) file transmission requests, but if needed I can forward such requests to the existing program. I know enough to write our own, but of course I've got other stuff to do. Suggestions? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9712 "One small bug for man, one great program for mankind." - N. Armstrong ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 23:53:15 -0700 From: ghoti@lao-tse.bohica.net Subject: Mailing List software To: UUPC/Extended mailing list In regards to your search for an OS/2 file/mailing list server, I came across one tonight. Here's a blurb from the archive: --------------------------------[info here]------------------------------- WHAT IS WMSERVER ? ------------------- WMServer is Copyright Lars Olofsson 1994 WMServer is a mailserver software for use with UUPC/Extended for OS/2. Currently in BETA: WMServer - Mail server software for UUPC, that can execute Ver 0.2 REXX scripts placed in certain paths (to ensure security). This means that the mailserver may be used for _anything_, such as remote control and system maintainance, file server, mailing lists, databases and anything else you may think of. Just write some new scripts to expand it. Currently there are REXX scripts for a simple file server and a mailing list server. WMSend - Simple rmail interface, primarily for use Ver 0.2 in WMServer REXX scripts. If you have any questions, feel free to send me an email at . Please include 'wmserver' in the subject for quicker responses. This document, or an updated one, is available by sending an email to . A file server is available, and the WMServer package is availabe for request. The server is accessible as Write HELP on a single line in the body of the letter to get info on how to use the server or to get the package as an uuencoded file write GET wmserver\wms02b4.zip END in the body of the letter. You may also subscribe to the WMServer mailing list, by sending an email to . Write HELP on a single line in the body of the letter to get info on how to subscribe to the mailing list. *** The WMServer software is Shareware. You may use it for 30 days on a trial basis, after which you must register if you intend to use the program further. A domain registration cost $15. If you do not register any e-mail sent by WMServer will include 'Unregistred Version' in the X-Mailer header.(Awful isn't it !) I, Lars Olofsson, take no responsibility of any damages the use, or lack of use, of these programs may result in. I don't even guarantee that they will take up space on your hard drive or crash your computer. Use at your own risk. ---------------------------------[end info]------------------------------- I can send it along, or you can get it directly from the source. Hope it helps. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 13:48:36 EST From: cmaurand@biddeford.com Subject: mail routing To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I have been over the sample files and the manual at least a dozen times and either I'm not "getting" it or UUPC will not do what I want it to do. Maybe one of you out there can help. Here is what I have. My Domain name is mmp.org I have 2 machines 1 TBBS machine that is horribly slow at transferring mail over the phone lines. The other is a DX4-100 running UUPC extended. (I managed to solve my earlier modem prolem) At any rate, what I want to do is to use the DX4-100 to dialup to the mail server and get the mail and news. I don't want any of it delivered locally. I want it all to be queued for the TBBS machine. (i.e. I want this machine to be a gateway for the other.) I then want the TBBS machine to either call in using a modem or using a null modem to get its mail where it can take its sweet ol' time doing it. Login and machine names are immaterial. My users are all currently using @mmp.org as the mailing address. I don't want their mail addresses to change. What I would like to know is how to setup the UUPC.RC and (if I read this correctly) the HOSTPATH files to be set up. (I have the systems file ok and I am working on the sys file. I figure those are the easy ones, its the routing issues that I am having trouble with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA Curtis Maurand System Administrator - Maine Meeting Place sysadmin@mmp.org cmaurand@biddeford.com (207)324-2337 - voice (207)324-5310 - data ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 09:26:34 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: mail routing To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 06 Dec 95 13:48:36 EST, cmaurand@biddeford.com wrote: > I have been over the sample files and the manual at least a dozen > times and either I'm not "getting" it or UUPC will not do what I want > it to do. Maybe one of you out there can help. Here is what I have. > > My Domain name is mmp.org > I have 2 machines 1 TBBS machine that is horribly slow at transferring > mail over the phone lines. The other is a DX4-100 running UUPC > extended. > > (I managed to solve my earlier modem prolem) > > At any rate, what I want to do is to use the DX4-100 to dialup to the > mail server and get the mail and news. I don't want any of it > delivered locally. I want it all to be queued for the TBBS machine. > (i.e. I want this machine to be a gateway for the other.) I then want > the TBBS machine to either call in using a modem or using a null modem > to get its mail where it can take its sweet ol' time doing it. Login > and machine names are immaterial. My users are all currently using > @mmp.org as the mailing address. I don't want their mail > addresses to change. > > What I would like to know is how to setup the UUPC.RC and (if I read > this correctly) the HOSTPATH files to be set up. (I have the systems > file ok and I am working on the sys file. I figure those are the easy > ones, its the routing issues that I am having trouble with. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. If the remote system queues mail using local user ids and nothing else (the remote rmail command has node information), you can't really do it on a per system basis. If the remote system does queue the mail for users at mmp.org via userid@mmg.org, just alias the node name of the second system to the domain name: mmg.org = TBBS Note that the nodename of the TBBS system and the domain name of the DX4 don't matter. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on? A. A 35 mm slide projector. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 12:10:41 -0400 From: sysadmin@mmp.org Subject: modem troubles To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello, I have set up uupc extended on an os/2 warp box w/12MB RAM and the usual goodies. There is no multimedia on the system. My connection to my UUCP provider has been bombing. When I run UUIO -s all -x9 everything works fine until I get connected. While waiting for the prompt "est: " I get "Port Error: 0x08 Framing Error" I get that twice. When things finally disconnect I get "got ??? "-?M?.?l(MG8m-??????\??8??dM?-??M_?|?M?????y?&h?}h?O??-?? On Wed, 06 Dec 95 12:10:41 -0400, sysadmin@mmp.org wrote: > I have set up uupc extended on an os/2 warp box w/12MB RAM and the usual > goodies. There is no multimedia on the system. My connection to my UUCP > provider has been bombing. When I run UUIO -s all -x9 everything works fine Don't run UUCICO -x 9. All it will it do is fill your hard drive. > until I get connected. While waiting for the prompt "est: " I get "Port Error: > 0x08 Framing Error" I get that twice. When things finally disconnect I get > "got ??? > "-?M?.?l(MG8m-??????\??8??dM?-??M_?|?M?????y?&h?}h?O??-?? > What is that? besides the obvious error that its garbage. The machine at the other end is Livingston Portmaster piping through to a Linux Box. You modem is not running the same speed as the serial port. Did you enable the Boolean option fixedspeed if the modem locks it's own port speed? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on? A. A 35 mm slide projector. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 1:28:36 +0800 From: jrlee@ztorrida.lugs.org.sg Subject: OS/2 mail reader compatible with UUPC/Extended To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Does anybody here knows a good OS/2 mail reader compatible with UUPC/Extended? Apparently, the one that I am using which is ELM 2.3.11 lacks of certain function. And since I use accented characters or extended ASCII set characters very often, it made it inconvienient for me to use ELM. I hope someone can suggest a good alternative. Thanks. JR Lee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 09:49:16 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: READ THIS To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Save this message. REQUESTS TO GET OFF THE LIST DON'T GET SENT TO THE LIST ADDRESS. They are to be sent to LISTSERV@KEW.COM, in the form: signoff uupc-info Every person on the list was told this when they joined. So why are all these people sending these requests to the list? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on? A. A 35 mm slide projector. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 08:38:26 From: support@ibs.DIALix.oz.au Subject: UUCICO To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I currently use WinMail plus version 3, running under WinOs2. It's an excellent newsreader and mail program, except for one thing... the UUCICO program supplied with it often crashes when it runs under OS/2. I want to keep using WinMail, but I was hoping the UUPC Exteneded UUCICO program from Kendra could be used in place of the WinNet UUCICO program. Is this feasible? I thought it might be if the UUCICO programs wrote data in similar formats, but I don't know enough about the low-level mechanics of UUCP. Has anyone tried using WinNet but substituting in Kendra's UUCICO program? Thanks for any help. 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Which tcpip/ppp package are you using? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 12:53:30 GMT From: rcochran@cse.dcu.ie Subject: where can I download UUPC To: UUPC/Extended mailing list can you advice me where I can download the latest version of UUPC many thanks Robert Cochran ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************