Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 23:45:28 EDT From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1995 #31 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Wed, 6 Sep 95 Volume 1995: Issue 31 Today's Topics: 1.20 DOS Anyone in Perth, Western Australia? Having UUPC answer calls; Running under Windows 3.11 Message : DosPostEventSem nswrite: Buffer Overflow ?? (2 msgs) NT install -- check Postscript files (3 msgs) Problems with rnews under DOS and NT regsetup causes A Timezone question (2 msgs) unsubscribe ~ 12000 line ACTIVE file To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 11:16:53 +0800 From: pbolton@clyde.pc.my Subject: 1.20 DOS To: UUPC/Extended mailing list DOS System installed yesterday with no visible problems to date. I am very happy that the _c_ default to the printer has been fixed, thanks, peter -- ********************************************************************** Peter J. Bolton Fax: +60-3-7314103 pbolton@clyde.pc.my Fax: +60-3-2328817 http://world.std.com/~able/clyde1.html ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:57:04 +1000 (EST) From: cbrady@ind.tansu.com.au Subject: Anyone in Perth, Western Australia? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm trying to help the Perth office of Community Aid Abroad (a development aid charity) to use the SNUUPM package which includes UUPC/extended. The local person I've been planning to collaborate with has just got a job somewhere else :-(. He expects to have a quick go at setting the package up before leaving, but I'd appreciate anyone over there experienced with UUPC to volunteer to help out if there are any difficulties. Thanks Charlie Brady - Telecom Aust |internet: cbrady@ind.tansu.com.au Network Products |Snail : Locked Bag 6581, GPO Sydney 2001 Australia Platform Technologies |Physical : Lvl 9, 320 Pitt St, Sydney 2000 IN-Sub Unit - Sydney | Phone: +61 2 395 3396 Fax: +61 2 395 3225 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 12:15:51 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Having UUPC answer calls; Running under Windows 3.11 To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:15:25 -0400, wieringa@xroads.com wrote: > Currently, I've done that, but at the moment can't test it. One problem is > when I run \winbin\uupoll.exe under Windows it says it's executing uucico, > but then it doesn't procede (under DOS, it uucico then displays a third line > of output about how long it's going to wait). > > I'm calling uupoll with the "-r 0" parameter. Under Windows, it starts another iconized window with the UUCICO in it. Make sure your \uupc\winbin is before the DOS binaries \uupc\bin so that you run the proper version. Also make sure you are in enhanced 386 mode, otherwise UUXQT, which is a DOS program, will hang running in background. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. God created the world in six days, but He didn't have to worry about an installed user base. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 11:46:39 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Message : DosPostEventSem To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:31:34 +0200 (MET DST), daemenl@eunet.be wrote: > I upgraded from version 1.12b to 1.12k. When running under OS/2 and > communicating via named pipe, I obtain the following message when starting > listening to the pipe (either via uupoll or uucico) : > > UUCICO: UUPC/extended 1.12k (OS/2 32 bit mode, 8Dec94 22:58) > DosPostEventSem: Incorrect internal file identifier. > Monitoring port pipe device pipes for 546 minutes until user hits Ctrl-Break There were some problems with ports rapidly being suspended and restarted, which in turn effects some internal semaphores and the like used for communicating port availablilty between multiple copies of UUCICO. Most of the problems were fixed by Kai Uwe Rommel, and I also worked on it. Try 1.12o on ftp.clarkson.edu and see if the problem goes away. While we're talking OS/2, does ANYONE have a use for the 16 OS/2 binaries (aside from when I break the 32 bit binaries? :-)). -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Turn it up! Sing Along! Go ahead! WE can't hear you . . ." - WEGQ Radio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 01:24:27 +0200 From: william.joye@ping.be Subject: nswrite: Buffer Overflow ?? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I have found some problems with UUPC 1.12b or 1.12k. With some modems (14.4 kbps or 28.8 kbps), UUCICO return 'nswrite: buffer overflow'... and the modem stop to transmit data. This problem appears only with big files (about more than some kb). If someone have found this problem or the solution write me a mail. Thanks. William JOYE william.joye@ping.be ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 22:40:43 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: nswrite: Buffer Overflow ?? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 06 Sep 1995 01:24:27 +0200, william.joye@ping.be wrote: > I have found some problems with UUPC 1.12b or 1.12k. With some modems > (14.4 kbps or 28.8 kbps), UUCICO return 'nswrite: buffer overflow'... > and the modem stop to transmit data. This problem appears only with > big files (about more than some kb). You're getting corrupt packets, which impies serial ports are dropping characters. (the modems, if EC is enabled, by definition will not drop characters.) What do you have the packet sizes set to? If up at 512 or above, cut them back to 256 or cut the window size to 3 or 4. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Why worry, there should be laughter after pain, There should be sunshine after rain, These things have always been the same . . ." - Mark Knopfler ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 23:47:09 -0800 From: dave@smersh.watt.com Subject: NT install -- check To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm running the NT binaries for 1.12o now. Regsetup no longer crashes on my system. Rmail, mail, uucico, and uuxqt appear to work as advertised. (I haven't beaten on the other apps much.) - Dave -- Dave Watt (N1HMB) Home: 510-352-6799 dmwatt@smersh.watt.com San Leandro, California [A computer is] like an old testament god, with lots of rules and no mercy. - Joseph Campbell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 12:04:18 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Postscript files To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 28 Aug 1995 22:19:08 -0700 (PDT), johana!tsw@isp.net wrote: > Despite several attempts (on different printers and with different > software, I get an error message when trying to send a postscript file > to a LaserWriter. > > Facts..... > Original file: upc12bap.zip (obtained from ftp.clarkson.edu) > Example of 'unzipped' file: 'ADVANCED.PS' > Laserprinter(s) used: Apple LaserWriter Plus, HP Laserjet 4 > Software used Laserwriter Font Utility (it has an option to download > postscript files). I used a couple of other ones for > the HP printer, same results. > Error messages: (pasted verbatim from the error message (log) file): > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > > OK, I'm a fool, but I've printed several documents this way (notably > some GNU stuff) and I get no errors. I've tried stripping off the > extra 's with no luck. Do I need some magic file before I send > off the file in question. > > I figured that nice PostScript formatted files would be "real nice" to > look at and I wouldn't need to frotz around with such mundane things > like overstrikes and the like. > > Any clues?? Um, no. However, those docs were done with Word 2.0 and now we use Word 6.0, so it has been a while. I used to print the docs on a Sparc Printer which loved to choke around page 84 (around the tables which are part of the MAIL command), but a true LaserWriter generally go things right. A monolithic post script version of the 1.12o manual will be out at the end of the week (9/10), try that one. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Turn it up! Sing Along! Go ahead! WE can't hear you . . ." - WEGQ Radio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:17:11 +1000 (EST) From: cbrady@ind.tansu.com.au Subject: Postscript files To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 5 Sep 1995 uupcinfo@kew.com wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 1995 22:19:08 -0700 (PDT), johana!tsw@isp.net wrote: > > Despite several attempts (on different printers and with different > > software, I get an error message when trying to send a postscript file > > to a LaserWriter. > > > > Facts..... > > Original file: upc12bap.zip (obtained from ftp.clarkson.edu) > > Example of 'unzipped' file: 'ADVANCED.PS' > > Laserprinter(s) used: Apple LaserWriter Plus, HP Laserjet 4 > > Software used Laserwriter Font Utility (it has an option to download > > postscript files). I used a couple of other ones for > > the HP printer, same results. > > Error messages: (pasted verbatim from the error message (log) file): > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ]%% > > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > > > > OK, I'm a fool, but I've printed several documents this way (notably > > some GNU stuff) and I get no errors. I've tried stripping off the > > extra 's with no luck. Do I need some magic file before I send > > off the file in question. > > > > I figured that nice PostScript formatted files would be "real nice" to > > look at and I wouldn't need to frotz around with such mundane things > > like overstrikes and the like. > > > > Any clues?? > > Um, no. > > However, those docs were done with Word 2.0 and now we use Word 6.0, so > it has been a while. I used to print the docs on a Sparc Printer which > loved to choke around page 84 (around the tables which are part > of the MAIL command), but a true LaserWriter generally go things right. > > A monolithic post script version of the 1.12o manual will be out at the > end of the week (9/10), try that one. Might I suggest that you post-process the Word output to bring it a bit closer to Adobe Document Structure Conventions. See "Postscript Sins", August 1995 Byte. A few of the obvious ones are: - Remove the first byte if it is ^D. Windoze PostScript driver puts that in by default. - Convert any overly long lines with included ^Ms to shorter lines separated by ^Js. 'tr' can do this for you. The DSC limit for line length is 255 characters. Some font definitions and EPS produced by MAC paint programs (probably among others) suffer from this problem. Making A4 page size versions of the files available would also be friendly to non-USA users. It isn't too hard to convert if you know what you are doing or have "psutils", for instance, but you can't expect everyone to be in that category. I don't mind checking out a preview if you like. Charlie Brady - Telecom Aust |internet: cbrady@ind.tansu.com.au Network Products |Snail : Locked Bag 6581, GPO Sydney 2001 Australia Platform Technologies |Physical : Lvl 9, 320 Pitt St, Sydney 2000 IN-Sub Unit - Sydney | Phone: +61 2 395 3396 Fax: +61 2 395 3225 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 22:38:49 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Postscript files To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:17:11 +1000 (EST), cbrady@ind.tansu.com.au wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 1995 uupcinfo@kew.com wrote: > Might I suggest that you post-process the Word output to bring it a bit > closer to Adobe Document Structure Conventions. See "Postscript Sins", > August 1995 Byte. A few of the obvious ones are: > > - Remove the first byte if it is ^D. Windoze PostScript driver puts that > in by default. I don't believe it does that any more. I used to have to hack all my docs by hand at work because of that problem. > - Convert any overly long lines with included ^Ms to shorter lines > separated by ^Js. 'tr' can do this for you. The DSC limit for line length > is 255 characters. Some font definitions and EPS produced by MAC paint > programs (probably among others) suffer from this problem. I don't have tr, ... > Making A4 page size versions of the files available would also be > friendly to non-USA users. It isn't too hard to convert if you know what > you are doing or have "psutils", for instance, but you can't expect > everyone to be in that category. ... nor do I have psutils. And running two extra copies (ASCII and PS) can be time consuming. The problem is that to a certain extent, such mangling falls into the class of problem we describe in the docs as 'can you print for a foo printer driver?' It's the sort of thing that MS really has to fix on one hand, and quite frankly, I'd rather put the effort into getting a hardcopy out to those who have paid in advance ... and then sell additional copies as required. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Why worry, there should be laughter after pain, There should be sunshine after rain, These things have always been the same . . ." - Mark Knopfler ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 11:43:50 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Problems with rnews under DOS and NT To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:06:00 -0100, stefan@donald.ruhr.de wrote: > I still have problems configuring rnews. > > My situation: > I am running a windows NT system with NNS 2.06 as NNTP-Server. I use > UUPC to connect to my provider and then i need the pure Newsbatches > so that NNS can access them. Right now, i am only able to do this under > DOS. When i call uuxqt under DOS, Mails are delivered fine, but rnews (DOS) > gives me the following message: > > run-time error R6000 > - stack overflow > uuxqt: executing "rnews" for user admin at inruhr > rnews: UUPC/extended 1.12k (DOS ..... > > This message appears serveral times during an uuxqt (one time per newsbatch?) > and after that, i have files in /tmp in the format of "***.z". That is > what i need to provide to NNS. That's not what I would call the plan. > But when i try to start uuxqt under NT (of course i use the NT-Binaries), > Mails are still delivered fine, but rnews always crashes and all news-files > are deleted. ("An application error has occured..." i'll append the log) > Ah.. before i'll forget, "rnews -?" works fine, without error ! Hmmm. I never saw this. In any case, 1.12o has been loaded up to ftp://ftp.clarkson.edu/pub/1.12o. This should have a working rnews (which now supports the NNS option) and REGSETUP. > So, what causes the DOS "error" ? ( i like the *.z result of this error;-) ) One suspects stack overflows because it's a COM file rather than a EXE file. I broke the news distribution out in 1.12n, so it should no longer blow up even under DOS. In any case, try 1.12o. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Turn it up! Sing Along! Go ahead! WE can't hear you . . ." - WEGQ Radio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 12:07:56 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: regsetup causes A To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 29 Aug 1995 17:35:26 -0400 (EDT), neal@cpcug.org wrote: > regsetup causes application error unable to execute with NT 3.5.1 > Does anyone else have a fix for this. > Have tried regsetup with the diffrent options and they all case problems. Yup, 1.12o is at ftp://ftp.clarkson.edu/pub/1.12o with a repaired REGSETUP. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. God created the world in six days, but He didn't have to worry about an installed user base. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 12:00:05 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Timezone question To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:27:02 GMT0BST, LISTUSER@omico.om.org wrote: > > Date sent: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 18:00:36 -0400 > > From: uupcinfo@kew.com > > I have a question on how to set the TZ environment variable. > I am not asking for the format, my problem is if to use positive or > negative numbers. > > The UUPC manual says: > > SET TZ=EST5 Eastern Standard Time, but no > daylight savings change > > SET US Pacific Standard Time, 8 hours > TZ=PST8PDT behind GMT > > The SNUUPM manual gives the help text from the BC++ compiler which > clearly says that west of GMT you must use positive numbers. So, both > manuals give the same information. > > In opposition to that I found that people in the States use negative > numbers in their header lines (like you do). Now, what is right? How > do you explain the different information? > I am really curious about that ;-) You put postive numbers into the environment variables, and it gets flipped by the code to be displayed as a negative number, or to be precise, the number you add (-400) to the current local time to get GMT. We display numbers instead the zones now, BTW, because the zone names really aren't valid outside North America. One of those little legacies from UNIX, is all. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Turn it up! Sing Along! Go ahead! WE can't hear you . . ." - WEGQ Radio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 12:07:19 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Timezone question To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Tue, 29 Aug 1995 18:07:20 GMT0BST, listuser@omico.om.org wrote: > The problem remains that I can not use MAIL.EXE and Pmail alternatively > on the same system without changing the TZ variable, because if I was in > the States for example, it would have to be positive for MAIL.EXE and > negative for Pmail. You can put the TZ variable into uupc.rc for MAIL.EXE and other UUPC/extended applications with the current version, now in ftp://ftp.clarkson.edu/pub/1.12o. This may have worked in 1.12n as well, I forget. This will override the environment variable, so you can use the environment variable for PMAIL. Of course, yell at the PMAIL author to have him fix the program, it should use the standard convention. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. God created the world in six days, but He didn't have to worry about an installed user base. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:34:21 -0700 (PDT) From: rll@felton.felton.ca.us Subject: unsubscribe To: UUPC/Extended mailing list unsubscribe +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Robert L. Lewis | Voice Home (408) 335-7816 | rll@felton.felton.ca.us | | 851 Lost Acre Dr | Voice Work (408) 427-7613 | scruz.ucsc.EDU!felton!rll | | Felton, CA 95018 | Home Fax (408) 335-7403 | sco.COM!felton!rll | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 11:56:09 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: ~ 12000 line ACTIVE file To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sat, 26 Aug 1995 23:38:11 -0400, "Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended Software Support" wrote: > I rewrote the ACTIVE list access into a simple tree this week. The > format is the same as the newgroups themselves, meaning the search for a > news group the program not compare more than the number of unique names > at each level in the tree below you. This is fairly fast for lookups > single insertions and dumping, but slower loading. I'll need to > optimize that (remembering the last insert location the tree), and then > I can probably include it in 1.12o. This is in fact part of 1.12o. Also, the storage of this list was moved from near memory to far memory in 16 bit environments, allowing more than 64K characters in the newsgroup names and associated data. Previous, the code would run out of memory at ~ 2000 groups or less. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Turn it up! Sing Along! Go ahead! WE can't hear you . . ." - WEGQ Radio ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************