Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:33:56 EDT From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1995 #22 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Sun, 9 Jul 95 Volume 1995: Issue 22 Today's Topics: emacs and uupc (4 msgs) expire -? Gating to Fido technology Help with rmail.exe under NT... (fwd) Problem wih rmail under NT? Source Change Affecting the 8250 Serial Chip on IBM/XT? suggestion to enhance uustat suggestion to enhance uustat (fwd) UUPC/extended via Telnet connection (2 msgs) Where I've been hiding... your romance ad in USSR a V A U@| Ol (Unverified) (2 msgs) To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:36 GMT From: tmv@ren.nic.in Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list We're going to replace one of our UUPC/Extended dial-up links with a VSTAT line. It will connect our UUPC/DOS machine to our mail server running Unix OS. Has anyone tried something like this??. Our UUPC machine is going to be used for other things as well, so it'll run UUCICO processes at night. Any advices on running this configuration?. I wonder how to signal the other machine when UUPC/Extended wants to establish a mail transfer, since there are no dialing involved. (I guess) :-/ --- venkatesan NIC HQ NEW DELHI INDIA e-mail is tmv@ren.nic.in ------------------------------ Date: 07 Jul 1995 17:11:00 +0200 From: krid@umrk.tng.oche.de Subject: emacs and uupc To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello! Is there a way to use GNU emacs for OS/2/emx for reading and writing news and mails? I have an uucp account and would like to get rid of my current msdos program for managing it, and use gnu emacs for replacing it. Since the current release of emx emacs 19.29 has the capability of reading and writing mail and news online via tcp/ip, I assume this wouldn't be such a big problem. Any ideas welcome. Ciao, - Krid - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:28:08 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: emacs and uupc To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > Hello! > > Is there a way to use GNU emacs for OS/2/emx for reading and writing > news and mails? I have an uucp account and would like to get rid of my > current msdos program for managing it, and use gnu emacs for replacing > it. I think there are scripts for emacs floating on the net/archives for doing just that. There are even some gnu* newsgroups dealing with similar issues. > > Since the current release of emx emacs 19.29 has the capability of > reading and writing mail and news online via tcp/ip, I assume this > wouldn't be such a big problem. However, I would suggest that you get your mail/news via uucp over tcp (gives you worldwide access to providers) and process it the old-fashioned way by storing it on a news volume. Then you can run a nntp server under OS/2 to access them via emacs. > > Any ideas welcome. > > Ciao, > - Krid - Best Regards, Mustafa Soysal PS: I would be happy to sell you news over tcp and store-forward your e-mail. mail info@express.net for pricing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 10:35:12 -0800 From: timr@iia.com Subject: emacs and uupc To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Since the current release of emx emacs 19.29 has the capability of > reading and writing mail and news online via tcp/ip, ... That's amazing. emacs: it's not a program, it's a way of life. -- - Tim Roberts Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc timr@iia.com ------------------------------ Date: 08 Jul 1995 00:12:00 +0200 From: krid@umrk.tng.oche.de Subject: emacs and uupc To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello! Am 07.07.95 meinte uupc@mistik.express.net: > I think there are scripts for emacs floating on the net/archives for > doing just that. There are even some gnu* newsgroups dealing with > similar issues. Thank you, I am going to ask my questions there. > However, I would suggest that you get your mail/news via uucp over tcp > (gives you worldwide access to providers) and process it the > old-fashioned way by storing it on a news volume. Then you can run a > nntp server under OS/2 to access them via emacs. Hmm.. that sounds like taking a hand granade for killing a small fly. I only have that very cheap uucp account, so tcp won't go. But I won't give up.. :) Ciao, - Krid - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 20:21:06 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: expire -? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:01:36 +0000, jpolt@bradnet.demon.co.uk wrote: > EXPIRE > > > Synopsis > > expire [-x debuglevel] [-e days] [-a days] [-n newsgroup] > > According to EXPIRE.EXE:- > > [C:\uupc\bin]expire -x20 -e20 -a5 -njunk > expire: UUPC/extended 1.12j (OS/2 32 bit mode, 25May94 07:51) > expire: illegal option -- a > > Usage: expire [-edays] [group ...] > > I would prefer to use the functions described in the docs. > > Is this descrepancy just a matter of using an old version of > expire, or are the docs anticipating future enhancements :-). The docs are wrong, we dropped the archive option. The usage message is correct. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. E Pluribus UNIX. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 18:40:23 -0400 From: paul@it.ca Subject: Gating to Fido technology To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Heya. I'm using UUPC/Extended on an OS/2 box with an ethernet connection to the Internet. The machine sends and receives mail via UUCP over TCP, and handles a couple of domains that get exchanged with UUCP neighbours over modem lines. I'd like to start gating email and news to Fido technology, but my gateway package of choice, GIGO, knows only how to deal with Waffle- style spool directories. I'd hate to have to make a null-modem link between two serial ports in order to get stuff from UUPC to FXUUCP... Is there any other solution? I'd *really* rather not have to run DOS software; my machine does nicely with PROTECTONLY=YES. :> I seem to be looking for a spool directory convertor, I think. -- Paul Chvostek paul@it.ca Can you imagine the silence if everyone said only what he knows? -- Karel Capek ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 20:26:00 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Help with rmail.exe under NT... (fwd) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 9 Jun 1995 11:12:48 -0400, dale@peer.on.ca wrote: > Our mail system is multi-user and, hence, needs to be located > on a file-server. This file server is a Unix box running SUN OS > and bwnfsd (the Beames and Whiteside NFS daemon). > > Internal mail is delivered fine but, when I spool mail bound for > outside destinations, I get an error of "permission denied" when > rmail tries to read and/or write the "SEQF" file that's located > on the file server. I get this msg about 10-15 times, then I get > a msg (with -x 20 debug info turned on) saying that there's a > run-time error in "lib\getseq.c, line 108," trying to get the > sequence file. > > This is what I've done: > > - ensured that I'm running the UUPC112k binaries compiled for > NT. (In fact, these binaries are on the file server with the SEQF > file and can be read without incident!) > - ensured that Beames & Whiteside client for NT has my R,W,X > permissions set *exactly* the same as I have them for my fully > functional UUPC112k system under Windows 3.11 It really does sound like a permissions issue. Since the file is opened for update, it won't if only read access is granted. > - ensured that I can read SEQF from the NT filemanager (but not that > I can write it back, because I haven't been able to get everyone > off the system long enough to!) You should not have to get anyone off the system to rewrite the file. It is open for less than six lines of C code. I'm confused ... > Is there any more information that I can provide you or that you > can provide me? Can you update or delete the seqf remotely? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. E Pluribus UNIX. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 20:20:08 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Problem wih rmail under NT? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 7 Jun 1995 13:46:03 -0400, dale@peer.on.ca wrote: > I recently tried running rmail under Windows NT and had the > following error: > > "Run time library error in d:\src\uupc\mail\rmail.c at line 488 ... > /dev/nul: No such file or directory" Verify you are using the NT version of RMAIL, not the DOS version. The canonical empty file is named differently under NT. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. E Pluribus UNIX. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:22 EDT From: jeffrey@thompson.itm.org Subject: Source Change Affecting the 8250 Serial Chip on IBM/XT? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I'm looking into why I can't get UUPC to work with the 8250 serial chips on some original IBMPC/XT computers. I found this comment is in the comm.asm file (from UPC12KS2.ZIP): ; 9-Oct-93 Gumpertz Further improved RTI and made it exit via LSI2 when ; it still has the LSR available for counting errors. ; Added/removed some JMP $+2 instructions to get some ; I/O delay for slow 8259 and UART (8250) chips in ; some old machines; I think one JMP is plenty for an ; 80286; the 386 and 486 are unlikely to be found in ; machines that use old chips like the 8250. Moby Sigh. Is one 'JMP $+2' enough for an original IBMPC/XT? ; I suppose I will need some volunteers to test it. I'm a willing candidate to test it. It doesn't seem to work for the NS8250s on a direct connection (using a NULL modem connection). I'm running on the original IBMPC/XT computers. I'm attempting to recompile the source with MicroSoft Visual C++ compiler. Many things compiled, but many other things did not. It would be nice if I could get it compiled so I could test it and make minor adjustments until it works. Also, I'll look for a pre--9-Oct-93 version, before the above change was made, to see if it works on the NS8250 serial chips. I'm not sure what version that would be. Anyone know where I can a pre--9-Oct-93 version of UUPC? Jeffrey Thompson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:20:42 -0700 From: ken@kgwcal.cuug.ab.ca Subject: suggestion to enhance uustat To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Drew: I feed a number of sites with both mail and news. I would find it very helpful if the uustat -q command could give not only the number of files queued (as it does now), but also, the total size of the files going out. This could give me a better feel (at a single glance) of the size of my outgoing queues. Perhaps an extra option that could be used in conjunction with -q could be used. Please let me know what you think, thanks Ken -- ***************************************************************** * Ken Wiens * * * Information Systems Manager * Using OS/2 and UUPC/extended * * Ranger Oil Limited * * * Calgary, Alberta, Canada * fax 403-251-6354 * * via ken@kgwcal.cuug.ab.ca * voice 403-251-2980 * ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:00:17 -0700 From: ken@kgwcal.cuug.ab.ca Subject: suggestion to enhance uustat (fwd) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > I feed a number of sites with both mail and news. > > find it very helpful if the uustat -q command could give not > > only the number of files queued (as it does now), but also, > > the total size of the files going out. Just to be clearer - on each line of the uustat output, you currently give the site name with queued output (or jobs) and the number of files for that site. I would like an additional column that gave the total size (in kb) for the files for that site (only makes sense in the case of files queued for transmission as opposed to xqt files) Ken -- ***************************************************************** * Ken Wiens * * * Information Systems Manager * Using OS/2 and UUPC/extended * * Ranger Oil Limited * * * Calgary, Alberta, Canada * fax 403-251-6354 * * via ken@kgwcal.cuug.ab.ca * voice 403-251-2980 * ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 21:57:10 -0500 From: whutch@intellinet.com Subject: UUPC/extended via Telnet connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I am having a real problem finding a local ISP who offers a UUCP account. I can find a number of national providers that offer one, but it's to expensive to access them since it means a long distance call or third party network access charges that cost more than the UUCP account itself. However, I have come across some UUCP providers that offer UUCP accounts via a Telnet connection. This interest me since I can get low cost Telnet access through a local ISP via a SLIP/PPP account with a no toll telephone call. I was wondering if there was a way to configure UUPC/extended to run using Telnet? If so, what would be the recommended way to implement such a configuration? Thank you, Walter Hutchison, whutch@intellinet.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:27:16 -0500 From: uupc@mistik.express.net Subject: UUPC/extended via Telnet connection To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > > I am having a real problem finding a local ISP who > offers a UUCP account. I can find a number of national > providers that offer one, but it's to expensive to access them > since it means a long distance call or third party network > access charges that cost more than the UUCP account itself. > However, I have come across some UUCP providers that offer > UUCP accounts via a Telnet connection. This interest me since > I can get low cost Telnet access through a local ISP via a > SLIP/PPP account with a no toll telephone call. I was > wondering if there was a way to configure UUPC/extended to > run using Telnet? If so, what would be the recommended > way to implement such a configuration? > > Thank you, > > Walter Hutchison, whutch@intellinet.com > Sure Walter, I do it all the time, and I offer such connections as well. Write to info@express.net, and we'll get you all set. uupc extended is all you need. Since you have slip/ppp it is even better, but it would have worked with a shell account too. We can provide your own domain name as well, not only uucp domain name. Best Regards, Mustafa Soysal ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 20:56:55 -0400 From: Software@kew.com Subject: Where I've been hiding... To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Last winter Jeff Coffler, the author of NNS, noted to me that I seem to work like hell for a while on UUPC/extended and then disappear for a longer while. He's right. I did of course get a far amount done on 1.12m/1.12n and then 1.12o through about April, but 1.12o has yet to hit the streets. The behind-the-scenes story ... After resting for about two months (caused by my classic development cycle), we geared up to do the documents for 1.12o in late May. However, at the end of the first week in June my employer informed me that I had been effectively replaced on my current project, something which doesn't endear me to them or how they run a railroad. They love me, they want to keep me, and I'm looking for a new job anyway. This leads to a few comments: Not a damn thing happened on UUPC/extended in June, including properly answering my mail. My apologies. I'm back but not working on UUPC/extended with my usual vigor. What can I say, I'm distracted ... I'm trying to catch on support issues and then spit out the 1.12o releases with new documents. If interviews eat up my schedule or I actually switch jobs, how fast I spit out 1.12o will be affected. If you need a UNIX, PC, or IBM S/390 C/C++ jockey with strong networking skills in the Boston area, give me a call or send mail to me at ahd@kew.com, and I'll send you my resume. When out, I expect 1.12o to be a fairly clean beta test, and then a golden edition which includes the ever promised hardcopy docs. We'll see how it works out. The fastest 1.12o will be out will be 7/31/95. If it's past Labour Day, I'll have trashed my schedule again ... -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 Windows NT - From the people who brought you EDLIN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 13:51:06 -0400 From: postmaster@kew.com Subject: your romance ad in USSR a V A U@| Ol (Unverified) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:11:21 UT, "Ian King" wrote: > I *AM* flaming! I signed onto this mailing list to receive information about > UUPC/extended, NOT "romance ads" or subtly veiled ploys to make money. If > this continues, I will unsubscribe. > > Thank you. - Ian King, > a-iank@msn.com *snicker* I actually took your note in good humor -- unlike the original, which annoyed me as much as it did you. But look before you shoot, please. First off, no one connected with Kendra Electronic Wonderworks originated or approved the message. So it's not OUR fault, since uupc-info is an unmoderated list and this was note was sent from outside the domain when I was 400 miles away driving my new Miata. Had you taken a close look at the headers BTW, you would have seen that that the message, a forgery, actually appears to have orginated by BYU.EDU, and I have protested strongly to the postmaster of that site. Secondly, I have added the appearant address to the kill file for the list server. The would be author could not get the time of day out of us using that address again. Third, if you (or anyone else) wants not see this truly junk mail stuff (also the errant subscribe/unsubscribe commands sent to the list itself), you can switch to uupc-info-digest. I moderate that list to the extent that such obvious garbage is deleted, although I leave everything even near the proper topics flowing on the digest. [This note will appear on uupc-info-digest, but the original note will not -- I killed it from the digest queue.] Send mail to listserv@kew.com to switch lists. -ahd- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 13:31:04 -0500 (CDT) From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Subject: your romance ad in USSR a V A U@| Ol (Unverified) To: UUPC/Extended mailing list According to postmaster@kew.com: + + +First off, no one connected with Kendra Electronic Wonderworks +originated or approved the message. So it's not OUR fault, since +uupc-info is an unmoderated list and this was note was sent from outside +the domain when I was 400 miles away driving my new Miata. Had you +taken a close look at the headers BTW, you would have seen that that the +message, a forgery, actually appears to have orginated by BYU.EDU, and I +have protested strongly to the postmaster of that site. Yup, I've sent the postmaster@byu.edu about this mail spamming, but I haven't got any respond (or even the return-receipt mail). -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************