Date: Thu, 4 May 95 21:26:50 EDT From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info-Request Digest 1995 #14 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info-Request@kew.com UUPC-Info-Request Digest Thu, 4 May 95 Volume 1995: Issue 14 Today's Topics: DOS mail.exe and Ctrl-z empty files on ftp.clarkson.edu How can I use uupc's rmail & mail to replace ultimail with IAK? (2 msgs) INEWS.exe MS Mail through uupc NCSI Optimizing the speed (2 msgs) UUPC's UUCICO and GIGO? UUPC/Ext FAQ (2 msgs) uupc fileserv software uupc user-login creat What happened to the windows files on Clarkson To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 20:36:16 +0200 From: roresoft@cistron.nl Subject: To: UUPC/Extended mailing list subscribe uupc-info help Marc de Rooy en Leon Reynders roresoft@cistron.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:31:31 -1200 From: stephen@digitech.co.nz Subject: DOS mail.exe and Ctrl-z To: UUPC/Extended mailing list We are using UUPC 1.12k (until the newer version settle down), and we have run across a problem with the DOS version of mail.exe. When the *.spb file contains Ctrl-Z characters (as some emails do), mail.exe seems to stop reading the *.spb file at this point and the remaining email in the file is lost (unless you notice it happening). Has this been fixed in later versions, or does someone have a patch? -- Stephen Worthington Telephone: +64-4-569-6764 (home) Digi-Tech Communications Ltd +64-4-389-8909 (work) stephen@digitech.co.nz (work) Fax: +64-4-389-9901 (work) stephen@inisant.actrix.gen.nz (home) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:51:50 -0400 From: Help@kew.com Subject: empty files on ftp.clarkson.edu To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:10:22 -0700 (MST), Steven.Berry@asu.edu wrote: > I tried to ftp upc12kd1.zip and upc12kd2.zip from ftp.clarkson.edu but > the file entries say 0 bytes. upc12kd3 seems to be OK. Is there any place > else I can get these? I reloaded the files. I have no idea what clobbered them or how, I have made no updates to the server in several weeks but suddenly those files were altered on 4/22. For all I know, Clarkson had a security breach or disk failure on omnigate.clarkson.edu (the true name of ftp.clarkson.edu). -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 "Hi Snuffles!!" - The Grey-eyed Elf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 23:42:07 -0600 From: paul.elliott@Hrnowl.LoneStar.ORG Subject: How can I use uupc's rmail & mail to replace ultimail with IAK? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I have OS/2's internet connection software, but I do not like ultimail. (It is too slow and combersome.) Is there anyway I can use uupc's mail & rmail to queue mail to my internet mail server? Also, I would like to recieve mail, not using ultimail, but directing the mail into rmail. I should be able to alter rmail control files to pipe into sendmail. What parameters should I use? I can probably modify sendmail.uml to pipe its output into rmail, but what precise modifications should I make? Has anybody done anything like this before? -- Paul Elliott Telephone: 1-713-781-4543 Paul.Elliott@hrnowl.lonestar.org Address: 3987 South Gessner #224 Houston Texas 77063 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:00:55 +0200 (MESZ) From: eurjof@eur.sas.com Subject: How can I use uupc's rmail & mail to replace ultimail with IAK? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi Paul, On Tue, 25 Apr 1995 paul.elliott@hrnowl.lonestar.org wrote: > Is there anyway I can use uupc's mail & rmail to > queue mail to my internet mail server? Also, I would > like to recieve mail, not using ultimail, but directing the > mail into rmail. Some time ago, i ported Unix rmail from the BSD sendmail distribution to OS/2 and uploaded it to some ftp sites as 'uucpsup.zip'. Unfortunately, it got lost on the main OS/2 ftp site "hobbes.nmsu.edu", but AFAIK, it's still available on ftp.rus.uni-stuttgart.de. As soon as a new version is available (should be right soon now), i'll reupload the new version to hobbes. I you have problems getting this software, just send me an email. Cheers, Jochen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 09:49:36 +0800 From: fiona@snoopy.lugs.po.my Subject: INEWS.exe To: UUPC/Extended mailing list could anybody help me on the command file Inews.exe and Rnews.exe I could not use any of these command ? thanks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:05:53 +0200 From: frank@ilab.sztaki.hu Subject: MS Mail through uupc To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Is it possible somehow to connect MS Mail postoffice to the Internet through UUPC, specially with the NT version of UUPC. Please reply me directly, Ferenc -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ferenc Jamrik e-mail: frank@ilab.sztaki.hu Information Research Laboratory phone: (+36 1) 2698270 x106 Computer and Automation Institute (+36 1) 2698272 x106 Hungarian Academy of Sciences (+36 1) 2698400 x348 P.O.Box 63. H-1518 fax: (+36 1) 2698269 Budapest, Hungary (+36 1) 1667503 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:14:11 GMT From: njh@smsltd.demon.co.uk Subject: NCSI To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I have tried adding NCSI support to UUPC1.12j. The code correctly allocates the NCSI resources, talks to the modem (which is on another PC), dials out logs in, starts up 'g' protocol, negotiates that a file is to be transfered, sends one or two packets then stops with endless packet retries (same symptoms as continual hardware overruns). The people who supply NCSI, Network Software or something like that, whilst being interested in the project cannot help. They've looked at the code and said that it should be working. -- Nigel Horne, Technical Director SoftCare Media Systems Ltd. Internet: njh@smsltd.demon.co.uk; Fidonet: Nigel Horne @ 2:2502/21.10; Packet: G0LOV@GB7SYP.#19.GBR.EDU; Phone: +44-1226-283021. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 19:17:32 -0400 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Optimizing the speed To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On 16 Apr 1995 21:40:00 +0100, hajo@quijote.in-berlin.de wrote: > How UUPC does it > ---------------- > UUPC 1.12k includes a nearly full implementation of uucp-g. UUPC can talk > 1024/7 with variable blocksize. The restriction to 1024 is there, because > Snuffles the Polar Bear, in his remote arctic environment, does not know > about warm places where it needs a letter to the phone company, 3 or 5 > months waiting time, and 200$ for both the phone company and the computer > hardware, to get two (bundable) 64000 bps channels for UUCP, allowing > 7500cps transfer rates both. (Don't get jealous, the drawback is higher > connection time rates for everybody, and 35-40$/month even before you > connect.) Two very important facts. 1) Snuffles is female. Picture a white polar bear Muppet (R) in a Boston Red Sox (R) jersey. She's sort of a cross between Miss Piggy and the Cookie Monster at times. 2) The 1024 limit is because of Bill Gates thinking 640K was a fine limit for memory ... in 1981. Buffering 4096*7*4 takes a LOT of memory, for very little improvement. Over ISDN, I would expect most people to run TCP/IP, be it SMTP, POP, or UUCP. (Ask Jeff Coffler about UUCP over TCP/IP vs. NNTP, UUCP can be useful in a TCP/IP environment ...) -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 To sign off from uupc-info, send the command "signoff uupc-info" in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com. DO NOT send this request to the list itself! For human assistance with the list itself, send mail to snuffles@kew.com. "Who am I? Well, ya see, I'm actually an MIT experiment in artificial intelligence. The AI people decided that, if they could fool the alt.sex people, they could fool anybody, and thereby create a Turing machine. So, here I am..." - The Grey-eyed Elf ------------------------------ Date: 02 May 1995 13:20:00 +0100 From: hajo@quijote.in-berlin.de Subject: Optimizing the speed To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Two very important facts. > > 1) Snuffles is female. Picture a white polar bear Muppet (R) > in a Boston Red Sox (R) jersey. She's sort of a cross > between Miss Piggy and the Cookie Monster at times. Ooops. My apologies. Please tell Mrs. Snuffles that I won't ever write that again. > > 2) The 1024 limit is because of Bill Gates thinking 640K was > a fine limit for memory ... in 1981. Buffering 4096*7*4 > takes a LOT of memory, for very little improvement. > > Over ISDN, I would expect most people to run TCP/IP, be it > SMTP, POP, or UUCP. (Ask Jeff Coffler about UUCP over TCP/IP > vs. NNTP, UUCP can be useful in a TCP/IP environment ...) I don't know him, but it is very useful indeed for major distribution sites, since IHave-SendMe seems to run against the wall at 70.000 articles per day. While I agree here, I don't understand the connection between switch to ISDN and switch to TCPIP. Either I want to use other things while the news are transferred, then I will do it now, or I don't want that. My news are transferred at six in the morning, and I don't plan to get up to play with the Internet during the UUCP transfer. I have installed UUPC (OS/2) parrallel to my DOS site, and will switch over as soon as I get the same function out of my test installation. I think I will get ISDN next winter, I'm waiting for the Faxworks people to give me G3-64k and G4 (or for other folks to implement this for OS/2). With my DOS UUCP site, I will disconnect my 16.8k modem, connect the new X75-TA instead, set the port speed to 115200 and the uucp-g packet size to 4096 in its Config menue, done. No 640k barrier with my DOS site. Now you tell me about the 640k barrier with my new OS/2 site ... :-) I did hope to get uucp-i under OS/2, since Peter Mandrella did not implement this into my DOS program. He said that uucp-i under DOS is no trivial task, and that "i" is for multitasking systems. hajo -- ----[Hans-Joachim Zierke ]---------------------------------------------- [Rathenower Straße 23 ] [D-10559 Berlin-Moabit] hajo@quijote.in-berlin.de [ +49-30 / 394 84 45] ----[Fax:(0)30 / 394 84 47]---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 21:20:45 From: udo@dcgg.xs4all.nl Subject: UUPC's UUCICO and GIGO? To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hoi! I'd like to know if it's poSsible to use UUPC's UUCICO (because it's available for OS/2) together with GIGO (Usenet <-> Fidonet gating software). GIGO needs a Waffle-compatible UUCICO (because of the name-munging or something like that). Can UUPC's UUCICO do this? Anyone? Groeten, Udo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:11:12 -0400 (EDT) From: wieringa@egr.msu.edu Subject: UUPC/Ext FAQ To: UUPC/Extended mailing list To my knowledge there is no UUPC/Extended FAQ, right? I've been watching the mailing list for a while lately (again) and notice a repeat of some questions/answers. ...I don't really have time to maintain a FAQ, but I would consider trying to make time if it would be considered helpful to the development team (if they think it would free up some of there time). Some common inqueries seem to be in the areas of performance improvement and frontends. Comments? dave -- _ Dave Wieringa _ // Amiga PGP Pub Key: send e-mail with subject="pubkey" East Lansing, MI \X/ 2000 Internet: wieringa@egr.msu.edu Senior CPE, Mich State Univ W.W.Web: http://web.cps.msu.edu/~wieringa/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 06:53:11 -0800 From: coffler@jeck.wa.com Subject: UUPC/Ext FAQ To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, > To my knowledge there is no UUPC/Extended FAQ, right? I've been > watching the mailing list for a while lately (again) and notice a > repeat of some questions/answers. > > ...I don't really have time to maintain a FAQ, but I would consider > trying to make time if it would be considered helpful to the > development team (if they think it would free up some of there time). > > Some common inqueries seem to be in the areas of performance > improvement and frontends. > > Comments? In my experience, an FAQ may not be as much help as you think. I wrote NNS, the news server software that runs on NT. With it, I have about 20 or 25 pages worth of documentation (FAR less documentation than UUPC has). Part of that is a 3-5 page FAQ. People are NOTORIOUS at not reading the documentation (I have read every page of the UUPC documentation - just not for a little while). I get comments that my docs are really easy to use and clear. Yet, other people ask me questions that are asked and answered in the FAQ of my docs. I actually had one person say "He didn't have that much time to work with computers, so he found it more useful to ask questions than to search the documentation for answers". He didn't read a word from the FAQ chapter. All I'm trying to say is: an FAQ helps, but not nearly as much as you may think. Some people just don't take the time to read docs. At least, with a decent FAQ, you can answer "read the docs" when you get the same questions over and over. But you'll still get a lot of the same questions (in my experience, anyway). -- Jeff -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:46:50 +0800 From: fiona@snoopy.lugs.po.my Subject: uupc fileserv software To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I came to know that there is a sofware capable of setting up as a fileserver . Could anybody help me in getting this software ? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 11:40 IST From: tmv@ren.nic.in Subject: uupc user-login creat To: UUPC/Extended mailing list how to creat an user-id on uupc and what are the files specfically essiental . Could anybody help me in geting out of this problem ? thanks ... venaktesan e-mail tmv@ren.nic.in ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:22:53 -0400 From: dean@oti.on.ca Subject: What happened to the windows files on Clarkson To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Does anybody know what happend to upc12kw1.zip and upc12kw2.zip on fpt.clarkson.edu? The files are there but they have a size of 0. Also the upc manual says there is supposed to be a upc12kw3.zip but it is not there at all. Does anybody know what is going on? ...Dean... Object Technology International Inc 2670 Queensview Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K2B 8K1 ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info-Request Digest ******************************