Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:35:37 EST From: Snuffles@kew.com Subject: UUPC-Info Digest 1995 #2 To: uupc-info-digest@kew.com Message-ID: Reply-To: UUPC-Info@kew.com UUPC-Info Digest Sat, 11 Feb 95 Volume 1995: Issue 2 Today's Topics: bug in time zone routines How to set up a Mail server (2 msgs) Need Help with Performance (3 msgs) Problems with /winbin/uupoll (2 msgs) question about protocol and TIN (2 msgs) Stupid Paths (2 msgs) uucp grades (2 msgs) UUPC and NT (3 msgs) UUXQT questiosn (2 msgs) To subscribe to UUPC-Info-Digest, send the command in the body of a message to listserv@kew.com: subscribe uupc-info-Digest To signoff from UUPC-Info-Digest, use "signoff" instead of "subscribe". You can also send an "index" to the listserv to get an index of back issues and other files available for retrieval. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 11:39:23 +0000 From: Software@kew.com Subject: bug in time zone routines To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Recent versions of UUPC/extended have had a bug in the time zone set-up processing, I'm not sure exactly when, it may affect only 1.12k or not even that. Basically, the TZ (time zone) variable has been copied improperly from the environment, causing the internal copy to look like TZ=TZ (rather than TZ=EST5EDT or whatever). This will of course be corrected in 1.12m. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 "If money can't buy happiness, why do all dates begin at the cash machine?" - Spuds MacKenzie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 6:31:19 -0800 From: tannen@crusader.stat.com Subject: How to set up a Mail server To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hi, I am using UUPC1.12j, ELM, and TRN for my Internet setup on my OS/2 system. I am looking for some software that will do the following things with email: 1. Provide a email list server, so I can set up my own email lists. 2. Provide file retrieval when someone requests a certain file. 3. Provide automatic return email when someone makes a request via an email account (ie info@crusader.stat.com would send back info about Crusader Software). I have looked at VMS220 on kewgate, but I am not sure that it is an OS/2 application. It appears to be a MS-DOS application (at least based on a quick look of the documentation). Also it appears to be really set up for Waffle (but again the docs make it sound like it can work w/ OS/2). A servant of Christ, David Tannen (tannen@crusader.stat.com) TeamAda Member Crusader Software (tm) 613 West Caballero Circle Mesa, Arizona 85201 (602) 833 0048 Christian Acronym: B.I.B.L.E.=Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 21:06:16 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: How to set up a Mail server To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 5 Feb 95 6:31:19 -0800, tannen@crusader.stat.com wrote: > > I have looked at VMS220 on kewgate, but I am not sure that it is an > OS/2 application. It appears to be a MS-DOS application (at least > based on a quick look of the documentation). Also it appears to be > really set up for Waffle (but again the docs make it sound like it > can work w/ OS/2). It is a DOS application which will work with UUPC/extended for DOS (which is compatible with the OS/2 version) or Waffle. I write directly to the VMAIL queue from RMAIL and then run DOS VMAILX once an hour from OS/2 UUPOLL to handle the VMAIL processing. It works. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 Don't let it happen to you, get your shots for Windows NT today . . . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 11:11:12 -0500 From: gould@arrisdev.on.ca Subject: Need Help with Performance To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Now that I am running version 1.12k, I would very much appreciate some help in improving the performance of my connection with UUNET. For example, a log from yesterday ... 02/04-16:55 UUCICO: UUPC/extended 1.12k (Dec 11 1994 12:33:08) 02/04-16:55 callup: Calling uunet.ca via USROBV32 at 19200 on Sat Feb 04 16:55:10 1995 02/04-16:55 arrisdev connected to uunet.ca: 19200 bps, g protocol, z grade 02/04-18:17 0 files sent, 40 files received, 245 bytes sent, 1074473 bytes received 02/04-18:17 16942 packets transferred, 0 errors, connection time 81:59, 218 bytes/second 02/04-18:18 wanted "OK" 02/04-18:18 got ??? "OOOOOO??OOOOOO?Telnet session 0 closed: EOF????NO CARRIER??+++" Notice the connect speed of 19200, but an average transfer rate of only 218 bytes/second. That's less than 300 baud. Can you make a suggestion as to how I might resolve this problem? Thank you. Dan ------- ___ ____ ____ ___ ____ / _ \| _ \| _ \|_ _/ ___| |Internet: gould@arris.on.ca | |_| | |_) | |_) || |\___ \ | UUCP: uunet!uunet.ca!arrisdev!gould | _ | _ <| _ < | | ___) | | Tel: (519) 886-0863 |_| |_|_| \_\_| \_\___|____/ | FAX: (519) 886-0416 | Dan Gould, Senior Partner | ARRIS Design and Development Limited | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 19:48:14 -0500 From: gaz@spokes.boston.ma.us Subject: Need Help with Performance To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > Now that I am running version 1.12k, I would very much appreciate some > help in improving the performance of my connection with UUNET. For > example, a log from yesterday ... > > 02/04-16:55 UUCICO: UUPC/extended 1.12k (Dec 11 1994 12:33:08) > 02/04-16:55 callup: Calling uunet.ca via USROBV32 at 19200 on Sat Feb 04 16:55:10 1995 > 02/04-16:55 arrisdev connected to uunet.ca: 19200 bps, g protocol, z grade > 02/04-18:17 0 files sent, 40 files received, 245 bytes sent, 1074473 bytes received > 02/04-18:17 16942 packets transferred, 0 errors, connection time 81:59, 218 bytes/second > > Notice the connect speed of 19200, but an average transfer rate of only 218 > bytes/second. That's less than 300 baud. Yeah, UUNET's time charges can really add up. However, (8 data-bits + 1 start bit + 1 stop bit) * 218 bytes == 2180 bits per second 300 baud would be 30 bytes per second best case. Now, that's certainly nothing to brag about, but there may be more at work here. First of all, you should call UUNET tech support and find out which UUCP protocols they support, and ask about packet sizes. Choose a protocol with larger packets which will help in two ways: it will allow any modem compression to be more efficient it will reduce the overhead per byte -- overhead is nearly constant for a packet regardless of packet size There is a contra-indication for large packets, however. If your phone lines are noisy, you'll spend more time retransmitting, and lose the advantage. Your log doesn't show any errors in over an hour of connect time, so I say go for it. Keep an eye out for them though. Second of all, your line speed is more likely 9600 bps or 14400 bps, and your modem-DTE speed is 19200. Some modems can be programmed to announce the line speed on connection, OR the modem-DTE speed. 19200 is a common modem-DTE speed, but a fairly uncommon line speed -- only available on Telebit modems using a proprietary protocol as far as I know -- so I wonder if that's what you're seeing. Check your modem's manual for programming information about "Result Codes" -- this may be an ATXn command where n is a number, or it may be an S-register or a combination of both. > Can you make a suggestion as to how I might resolve this problem? Hope those help! > Thank you. > > Dan > > ------- > ___ ____ ____ ___ ____ > / _ \| _ \| _ \|_ _/ ___| |Internet: gould@arris.on.ca > | |_| | |_) | |_) || |\___ \ | UUCP: uunet!uunet.ca!arrisdev!gould > | _ | _ <| _ < | | ___) | | Tel: (519) 886-0863 > |_| |_|_| \_\_| \_\___|____/ | FAX: (519) 886-0416 > | > Dan Gould, Senior Partner | > ARRIS Design and Development Limited | -- Gary Zaidenweber, Brookline, MA | __@ gaz@spokes.boston.ma.us | _-\<,_ VOICE: +1.617.734.4132 | (_)/ (_) Pedaling along FAX: +1.617.566.3605 | the Information Superhighway ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 21:02:30 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Need Help with Performance To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 5 Feb 1995 11:11:12 -0500, gould@arrisdev.on.ca wrote: > Now that I am running version 1.12k, I would very much appreciate some > help in improving the performance of my connection with UUNET. For > example, a log from yesterday ... > > 02/04-16:55 UUCICO: UUPC/extended 1.12k (Dec 11 1994 12:33:08) > 02/04-16:55 callup: Calling uunet.ca via USROBV32 at 19200 on Sat Feb 04 16:55:10 1995 > 02/04-16:55 arrisdev connected to uunet.ca: 19200 bps, g protocol, z grade > 02/04-18:17 0 files sent, 40 files received, 245 bytes sent, 1074473 bytes received > 02/04-18:17 16942 packets transferred, 0 errors, connection time 81:59, 218 bytes/second > 02/04-18:18 wanted "OK" > 02/04-18:18 got ??? "OOOOOO??OOOOOO?Telnet session 0 closed: EOF????NO CARRIER??+++" > > Notice the connect speed of 19200, but an average transfer rate of only 218 > bytes/second. That's less than 300 baud. > > Can you make a suggestion as to how I might resolve this problem? Got to a bigger packset is the main one. Call up the lovely folks at UUNET and tell them you want to use 512 byte packets. Also, immediately add to your modem file: gpacketSize=512 ... if the connection doesn't drop as soon you try this (a stock UUCP will only accept 128 byte packets, max, because of tty driver limitations), your throughput should go through the roof. Also, if you have FIFO UART, up your port speed to 38400. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 Don't let it happen to you, get your shots for Windows NT today . . . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 10:03:00 -0500 From: gould@arrisdev.on.ca Subject: Problems with /winbin/uupoll To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I received your diskettes with version 1.12k and have installed it. I am watching for timeout errors and will let you know if this fixes that problem. Thank you very much for your assistance. I am having a couple of problems with winbin/uupoll. I have followed your instructions in the manual very carefully and placed the /winbin directory ahead of /bin in my path. Problems ... 1) When UUPOLL launches UUXQT, the later just sits at the bottom of the screen, iconified and not executing. Double-clicking it causes it to go to full screen (non-windowed mode) and executes. 2) When I try to close UUPOLL, I get the message: "WindowsDelay: Unable to Kill WIndow Timer 1". Can you help? Thanks very much ... Dan ------- ___ ____ ____ ___ ____ / _ \| _ \| _ \|_ _/ ___| |Internet: gould@arris.on.ca | |_| | |_) | |_) || |\___ \ | UUCP: uunet!uunet.ca!arrisdev!gould | _ | _ <| _ < | | ___) | | Tel: (519) 886-0863 |_| |_|_| \_\_| \_\___|____/ | FAX: (519) 886-0416 | Dan Gould, Senior Partner | ARRIS Design and Development Limited | ------- ___ ____ ____ ___ ____ / _ \| _ \| _ \|_ _/ ___| |Internet: gould@arris.on.ca | |_| | |_) | |_) || |\___ \ | UUCP: uunet!uunet.ca!arrisdev!gould | _ | _ <| _ < | | ___) | | Tel: (519) 886-0863 |_| |_|_| \_\_| \_\___|____/ | FAX: (519) 886-0416 | Dan Gould, Senior Partner | ARRIS Design and Development Limited | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 21:04:13 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Problems with /winbin/uupoll To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sun, 5 Feb 1995 10:03:00 -0500, gould@arrisdev.on.ca wrote: > I received your diskettes with version 1.12k and have installed it. I am > watching for timeout errors and will let you know if this fixes that > problem. Thank you very much for your assistance. > > I am having a couple of problems with winbin/uupoll. I have followed > your instructions in the manual very carefully and placed the /winbin > directory ahead of /bin in my path. Problems ... > > 1) When UUPOLL launches UUXQT, the later just sits at the bottom of the > screen, iconified and not executing. Double-clicking it causes it to go > to full screen (non-windowed mode) and executes. You need to be running in 386 enhanced mode. Make sure you installed the UUXQT.PIF file in the same directory as UUXQT.EXE, btw. > 2) When I try to close UUPOLL, I get the message: "WindowsDelay: Unable to > Kill WIndow Timer 1". If you hit Cntrl-C in the UUCICO window (or in the UUPOLL windows if it is just sleeping), it should go away gracefully. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 Don't let it happen to you, get your shots for Windows NT today . . . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:06:56 +0000 From: marco@strange.iaf.nl Subject: question about protocol and TIN To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I forgot, G is the protocol with the bug? So it's safe to use the g protocol, isn't it? I downloaded tin for OS/2 a file of about 175 Kb and tried to set it up. I noticed that it is a very small program just one executable and two textfiles. Everything seemed to work okay, but I could read the newsgroups and I like how TIN works. Then I tried to post a message that didn't work. On return from the editor I have to choose 'p' to post the message. Tin then trys to start a program called postnews, but I don't have this program. Can anyone tell me how I can make TIN to work? Thanks in advance. Regards, Marco -- Marco van Os Groningen The Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 10:23:17 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: question about protocol and TIN To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:06:56 +0000, marco@strange.iaf.nl wrote: > I forgot, G is the protocol with the bug? So it's safe to use the > g protocol, isn't it? All the modem protocols based on 'g' (g, G, and v) have a bug which will exhibit itself over dirty modem lines. It will drop a connection rather than send corrupt data, so if you don't see the error, don't worry about it. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 "Frankly, Scarlett, I don't have a fix." - Rhett Buggler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:08:05 -0500 From: sysop@mome-raths.iac.net Subject: Stupid Paths To: UUPC/Extended mailing list OK, now that I've been reading more about UUCP, maybe I can ask this question a little more intelligently. Why is my return path so @#$%#d up? Here's how it should be, I believe: provider!site!user as according to "Managing UUCP and Usenet." In other words, this email should have a return path something like uuiac!mome-raths.iac.net! sysop. Now, this is a partial message I got from my provider's UUCP guy: === > Think I've found part of your problem. > > Is there somewhere in your mailer config to make it put a "From " line > in your messages? Yes, but I'm not forcing it. > > I think your problem is related to the "mome!mome-raths.iac.net!sysop" > abomination that is showing up in your messages. =========== Now, I tried putting the nobang option into UUPC.RC, and I pull up a message straight from the spooler: From mome-raths.iac.net!sysop Thu Feb 9 20:35:44 1995 remote from mome Received: by mome-raths.iac.net (UUPC/extended 1.12k); Thu, 09 Feb 1995 20:35:44 -0500 ... As you can see, now there is nothing stating the path to mome-raths at all. Of course, it hasn't left the site yet, either. Anyhow, here is some relevant data from UUPC.RC: NodeName=mome Domain=mome-raths.iac.net postmaster=sysop Mailserv=uuiac MailExt=mome-raths And, just in case, from CONFIG.SYS: SET UUPCSYSRC=g:\uupc\uupc.rc SET UUPCUSRRC=g:\uupc\sysop.RC So, what is wrong? Other than I cannot send mail to this g*&^^%$$ed IBM CMS mainframe up here, not much. If it doesn't have something to do with the path, then I don't know what to think. Unfortunately, a lot of the people around here like to use the g*&^^%$$ed CMS machine because it has a stupid menu on it. I can send and receive to both unix boxes and the DEC machine on campus without a problem. Is it the return path? If not, does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help, John -- Mome Raths BBS General Pix, Adult Pix, Messages, (513)523-7887 DOS, Windows and OS/2 programs, Oxford, Ohio 12 Step echos and much more ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 10:21:27 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: Stupid Paths To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:08:05 -0500, sysop@mome-raths.iac.net wrote: > OK, now that I've been reading more about UUCP, maybe I can ask this > question a little more intelligently. Why is my return path so > @#$%#d up? Here's how it should be, I believe: provider!site!user > as according to "Managing UUCP and Usenet." In other words, this > email should have a return path something like uuiac!mome-raths.iac.net! > sysop. > > Now, this is a partial message I got from my provider's UUCP guy: > === > > Think I've found part of your problem. > > > > Is there somewhere in your mailer config to make it put a "From " line > > in your messages? > > Yes, but I'm not forcing it. > > > > > I think your problem is related to the "mome!mome-raths.iac.net!sysop" > > abomination that is showing up in your messages. > =========== Which part is he complaining about, the FQDN? > > Now, I tried putting the nobang option into UUPC.RC, and I pull up a > message straight from the spooler: > > From mome-raths.iac.net!sysop Thu Feb 9 20:35:44 1995 remote from mome > Received: by mome-raths.iac.net (UUPC/extended 1.12k); > Thu, 09 Feb 1995 20:35:44 -0500 Nobang is the default. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 "Frankly, Scarlett, I don't have a fix." - Rhett Buggler ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 22:48:49 -0500 From: mdlawler@gwmicro.com Subject: uucp grades To: UUPC/Extended mailing list My feed polls me so I have to run uucico with the -r0 flag. How can I get uucico to send jobs based upon grade? I want all jobs to be sent, but I want the jobs to be processed according to grade. I understand that a job with a lower grade should be sent first so if I have several jobs with grades z, n, C, and A how do I get uucico to process all jobs of one grade before going on to the next grade? How does the symetricgrades option in uupc.rc work? -- Michael D. Lawler FIDO Michael.Lawler at 1:236/55 Voice 219-483-3625 Fax 219-482-2492 BBS 219-484-0210 Internet mdlawler@gwmicro.com GW Micro, Inc., Product Support ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 20:16:21 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: uucp grades To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 08 Feb 1995 22:48:49 -0500, mdlawler@gwmicro.com wrote: > My feed polls me so I have to run uucico with the -r0 flag. How can I get > uucico to send jobs based upon grade? I want all jobs to be sent, but I > want the jobs to be processed according to grade. I understand that a job > with a lower grade should be sent first so if I have several jobs with grades > z, n, C, and A how do I get uucico to process all jobs of one grade before > going on to the next grade? You wait for release 1.12m, and it happens automagically. > How does the symetricgrades option in uupc.rc work? I (honestly) forget. Lets see, I would suspect ... it causes the calling system to also use the grade it would normally send to the other system and then ignore. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 Shopping list: Strawberries ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:49:01 +0000 From: Michael@CIVIS.com Subject: UUPC and NT To: UUPC/Extended mailing list I am looking at using UUPC under NT for news (using NNS) and mail.. What I want to know is what mail packages can I use under NT along with UUPC that supports multiple users. Thanks, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 20:17:43 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: UUPC and NT To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:49:01 +0000, Michael@CIVIS.com wrote: > I am looking at using UUPC under NT for news (using NNS) and mail.. > > What I want to know is what mail packages can I use under NT along > with UUPC that supports multiple users. Ummm, the MAIL program does, you just add the additional users to PASSWD and (under NT) just have the users login, their personal.rc file name will be determined from the NT USERNAME variable. (Slick, eh?) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 Shopping list: Strawberries ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 23:02:15 +0000 From: Michael@CIVIS.com Subject: UUPC and NT To: UUPC/Extended mailing list > On Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:49:01 +0000, Michael@CIVIS.com wrote: > > I am looking at using UUPC under NT for news (using NNS) and mail.. > > > > What I want to know is what mail packages can I use under NT along > > with UUPC that supports multiple users. > > Ummm, the MAIL program does, you just add the additional users to PASSWD > and (under NT) just have the users login, their personal.rc file name > will be determined from the NT USERNAME variable. (Slick, eh?) Does the MAIL program have any nice features? Is it a Windows interface? Does it have folders? Can it auto-sort into folders? Address books? Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 10:03:17 -0600 (CST) From: cel@tenet.edu Subject: UUXQT questiosn To: UUPC/Extended mailing list Hello all! I have a perplexing problem that I'm hoping readers of this list can help solve. UUXQT gives me the following error message: 02/08-09:32 UUXQT: UUPC/extended 1.11w (Oct 19 1992 19:35:57) 02/08-09:32 Extended DOS Error Information: Number = 3, Class = 8, Action = 3, Locus = 1 02/08-09:32 Result of spawn rnews is ... -1 02/08-09:32 uuxqt: executing "rnews" for user "nuucp" at "nuchat" 02/08-09:32 rnews: No such file or directory Where does the username nuucp come from? Its not mine (and consequently probrably the cause of my problem). Nuchat is my uucp providers machine. The registration of my FQDN has not been completed. I'm waiting on confirmation. Does that have anything to do with the problem? I used the Novell salvage command to unerase the news files and manually NWSCUB'ed them and placed them in the appropriate directories. That worked. They were not in %uudir%\USR\NEWS, but in %uudir%\USR\spool\d and did not have the .ART extention (they had no extention). Did the previous error message (nuucp) foul up this part also? If I solve the nuucp users problem will this get sorted out? Thanks in advance for any help. Cliff Lee cel@tenet.edu "You can always make up a class, You can never make up a party!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 20:59:27 -0500 From: uupcinfo@kew.com Subject: UUXQT questiosn To: UUPC/Extended mailing list On Wed, 8 Feb 1995 10:03:17 -0600 (CST), cel@tenet.edu wrote: > I have a perplexing problem that I'm hoping readers of this list can help > solve. UUXQT gives me the following error message: > > 02/08-09:32 UUXQT: UUPC/extended 1.11w (Oct 19 1992 19:35:57) > 02/08-09:32 Extended DOS Error Information: Number = 3, > Class = 8, Action = 3, Locus = 1 > 02/08-09:32 Result of spawn rnews is ... -1 > 02/08-09:32 uuxqt: executing "rnews" for user "nuucp" at "nuchat" > 02/08-09:32 rnews: No such file or directory > > Where does the username nuucp come from? Its not mine (and consequently > probrably the cause of my problem). Nuchat is my uucp providers machine. The files were queued for you on that machine by user nuucp. It is NOT an error, and is NOT your problem. > The registration of my FQDN has not been completed. I'm waiting on > confirmation. Does that have anything to do with the problem? No, your problem is most likely your environment got clobbered by a bug in the Borland RTL which a work around was recently added. The short answer: Upgrade to 1.12k > I used the Novell salvage command to unerase the news files and manually > NWSCUB'ed them and placed them in the appropriate directories. That > worked. They were not in %uudir%\USR\NEWS, but in %uudir%\USR\spool\d and > did not have the .ART extention (they had no extention). Did the previous > error message (nuucp) foul up this part also? If I solve the nuucp users > problem will this get sorted out? No, upgrade. -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-641-3452 Don't let it happen to you, get your shots for Windows NT today . . . ------------------------------ End of UUPC-Info Digest ******************************